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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2014, 12:42:46 PM »
Recoil aside, that is a beautiful rifle.  Nice!   :tup:

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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2014, 12:50:29 PM »
I was looking at 470ne's a few years back but then I came to my senses as I don't see Africa in my 10 year plan.  :chuckle:  Oh but I sure love the big bores.
I have a friend that used a 458 win to hunt elk with on west side for years. He's a little older now and figured to give his shoulder a break so he switched to a 375 hh. :chuckle:
375 makes for an outstanding elk rifle! Hell i even used mine on a mule deer this year!  :tup:

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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2014, 01:37:25 PM »
 :) :) I am sorry but this sounds like BULL to me. .458 does not kick bad at all. I like em. 375HH does not kick either. I have shot many 308s, 7mmmags that kicked much more and more painful. 308 in a Savage 99 is a bad kicking gun, 458 in a normal bolt is just a push.
My normal bag game,deer,elk gun is a 300WM has been for 30 years, my custom 300 kicks less than most 06's. My brothers 30-378 is not a big kicker either.

I like the 458 I think you are gonna like it, the stock looks beautiful. I bet you can load reduced loads for fun. There used to be a gunsmith on Pacific in Tacoma, McCanns I think. He built M1 Garands in 458 win mag. I got to shoot one at Tacoma sportsmans range once.
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2014, 02:12:29 PM »
Now a M1 in .458 is just cool. 8)

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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2014, 02:38:04 PM »
I had a Ruger #1 in .458 years ago.  It was a fun gun!  I never did kill anything larger than a squirrel with it, but it did make for some fun when guys at the squirrel spot weren't expecting it :chuckle:  I was surprised that it wasn't more snappy in recoil.  Would definitely set you back a little, but not at all the brain scramble the 378Wby or even the 325 Kimber is.  I think you will enjoy it :tup:
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2014, 02:45:16 PM »
My normal bag game,deer,elk gun is a 300WM has been for 30 years, my custom 300 kicks less than most 06's.

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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2014, 02:52:06 PM »
Should be fun for some jungle hunting.  Don't let them scare you too much about recoil, be lucky if you can pack more than 75 grains of powder.  Plenty of bottlenecks in smaller caliber that can add 50% or more in powder.

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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2014, 03:05:18 PM »
I've only shot one once, 5 rounds.  Can't remember the make, but I do remember it had a decelerator pad on it.  Was not much different than a .50 muzzleloader with a maxiball and 100g of Pyrodex, or a hot saboted 12 gauge slug.  Definitely not as sharp as I expected.
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2014, 03:21:20 PM »
I remember reading that the .458 Win with a 400 grain bullet had the same fp of recoil as a 2.75" 12 gauge hunting load and about 30% more recoil speed.  Sounds about right from what I remember shooting it.  I don't remember ever shooting a 500 grain bullet.  So not sure how much increase that makes.  Should be about 20%, I would think :dunno:  Don't think it is any where near as bad as a 3.5" 12g
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2014, 03:23:24 PM »
Thanks for the input.....looks like I won't need the UW shoulder doctor after all........ :chuckle:
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2014, 03:34:05 PM »
Thanks for the input.....looks like I won't need the UW shoulder doctor after all........ :chuckle:

I have one of these myself, hated it for years until I finally decided to get a brake for it. most brakes will HALF felt recoil.. now I can shoot the max loads withtout it shaking my eyes loose or my shoulder black n blue.. a lot like a turkey load in shotgun...
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2014, 03:59:34 PM »
I dont shoot the kickers from a low bench anymore. I'll setup on the hood of my truck, this seems to help maintain retina position :dunno:
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2014, 04:06:45 PM »
  There used to be a gunsmith on Pacific in Tacoma, McCanns I think. He built M1 Garands in 458 win mag. I got to shoot one at Tacoma sportsmans range once.
Good luck and report back!!!
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Yep, McCann was around for years, I think he died a few years ago, not sure if anyone is still building them or not.
 But cool is exactly what those are.

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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2014, 04:13:42 PM »
I dont shoot the kickers from a low bench anymore. I'll setup on the hood of my truck, this seems to help maintain retina position :dunno:

Good tip!  More upright when shooting the big bores seems to help take the recoil as well as reduce scope eye. 

If using the hood of the truck make sure you remember the scope is above the bore :chuckle:  I've seen more than one guide truck with grooves and holes in the hood :yike:
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Re: Always Wanted A Big Bore....Not Sure Why
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2014, 04:24:27 PM »
  There used to be a gunsmith on Pacific in Tacoma, McCanns I think. He built M1 Garands in 458 win mag. I got to shoot one at Tacoma sportsmans range once.
Good luck and report back!!!
Carl

Yep, McCann was around for years, I think he died a few years ago, not sure if anyone is still building them or not.
 But cool is exactly what those are.

There was an auction about a year ago and we ended up with a few small things. His wife was trying to sell some of the patents, but I don't know if his .458 project was included.


 


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