Noooo Sleep

[Gobble]

Man, I forgot how much work young puppies are, the family is losing lots of sleep from our 6 1/2 week old black lab, he is whimpering a ton at night and my kids are getting up several times thru the night to let him out, We did the hot water bottle thing, and left a TV on for him to make him sleep, now I'm going to stop on my way home to get a wind up clock to see if that helps, I don't remember my other pups being this whiney....Heaven help us 

BTW - I told the wife I will sleep on the couch tonight so they can sleep     

[vandeman17]

Is he in a crate? He will get better in a couple days. I had a pup that would cry at night and I would lay in front of the crate after I put her in with my fingers through the door petting her. Once she crashed out, I would sneak back to my bed and sleep for a bit until it was time to get up for the pee break.

[Gobble]

Is he in a crate? He will get better in a couple days. I had a pup that would cry at night and I would lay in front of the crate after I put her in with my fingers through the door petting her. Once she crashed out, I would sneak back to my bed and sleep for a bit until it was time to get up for the pee break.

Yeah he is, I think we will need to exercise harder right before bed, as it is now he's good for about 10-15 min of play then he's worn out, I keep telling my wife that it will get better shortly, the little stinker better not make a liar our of me 

[fatslinger]

At  6 1/2 weeks old, maybe he still needs his mommy? I don't know a lot about puppies, but that seems awful young to be weaned.

[Happy Gilmore]

in a crate. they whine, get up and take them outside tell them to empty out or potty and put back into the crate. this is crate training. it pays off big time after two/three weeks of misery and no sleep but, thats the price of puppy training. This is the time when pup needs to learn to sleep alone. They miss their littermaters and they have tiny bladders.

[BD1]

I have never had one come home that young which may have something to do with it  None the less my new girl came home on the 20th at a little over 7 weeks and has been doing well at night.  I had to get up a few times the first couple of nights to let her pee.  Be sure to limit water/food intake several hours prior to bedtime and wear her out!!!! I do have her in a create and did exactly what vandeman17 said and it really helped.  She is not in love with the create but tolerates it.  I try to put her in when she is already half asleep.  It has been 14 years since I last did it but I do know it gets easier.  Potty training and constantly having to watch her have me pretty worn out too...but just think how great it will be to have our pups in the field with us this time next year  Hang in there...I think new puppy parents should have some type of support group on this site...we shall survive.

[Gobble]

At  6 1/2 weeks old, maybe he still needs his mommy? I don't know a lot about puppies, but that seems awful young to be weaned.

Yeah, I would have preferred 8-10 wks but had to make sure I had a pup avail to me. The crate is definately the way to go, he had adapted pretty good, so far, he like the crate and goes right to sleep when in there, its just the tiny puppy bladder that wakes him up at night, he is real good about going potty outside as long as we take him out there, he has gone a few times in the house when we didn't get him out in time. It will get better , but man I forgot how much work these little guys were, my last puppy was 14 yrs ago

[Gobble]

I have never had one come home that young which may have something to do with it  None the less my new girl came home on the 20th at a little over 7 weeks and has been doing well at night.  I had to get up a few times the first couple of nights to let her pee.  Be sure to limit water/food intake several hours prior to bedtime and wear her out!!!! I do have her in a create and did exactly what vandeman17 said and it really helped.  She is not in love with the create but tolerates it.  I try to put her in when she is already half asleep.  It has been 14 years since I last did it but I do know it gets easier.  Potty training and constantly having to watch her have me pretty worn out too...but just think how great it will be to have our pups in the field with us this time next year  Hang in there...I think new puppy parents should have some type of support group on this site...we shall survive.

I feel your pain brother, maybe we can start a new "Puppies Anon" Group    What breed of pup do you have?

[BD1]

I go at a new Chocolate Female...I put my last one down in Nov. after 13+ years...It was easier to raise a pup when I was a single young man with no kids 

I can't seem to figure out how to post a pic 

[Becky]

Yea as others said, the pup is pretty young to be weaned and away from the litter... ya might have quite a few sleepless nights ahead of you  good luck.

When the forum is fixed, post ups some pics!

[Happy Gilmore]

just set your clock for every 2 hours

[Dhoey07]

Let him out before bed, twice a night and right when you wake up, other than that don't pay attention to the whining and whimpering.  But I'm a pretty heave sleeper so maybe some ear plugs

[wheels]

when we first got he dog we have now was a noisy one about 6-7 weeks was an unplanned litter parents too young . but  we had same problem howl on and off thru night, but one day while i was sitting him he was whinny big time i gave him like 30 ignore  never did it again and i know sounds bad but worked 

[Gobble]

Yeah, I'm a pretty good sleeper too, Notice I said the kids got up all night 

Stopping by the goodwill on the way home to see if I can find a cheap wind up clock to put in there, hopefully that will help. If not maybe I'll find some puppy depends for night time 

[wheels]

towel or blanket over crste

[Gobble]

towel or blanket over crste

  We recently got another puppy. Really helped to completely cover the crate with a blanket. But with a puppy that young there is no way around multiple bathroom breaks at night. The time in-between pees should get a little longer each night. Mine is 11 weeks now and usually makes it through the night without waking us up.

Things are finally starting to slow down, We put a hot water bottle in there every night and I found a clock that has a pretty loud tick, we have starting  taking him for a swift walk right before bed and that seems to be doing the trick, He is only getting up once or twice a night now. I see the light at the end of the tunnel 

[BD1]

That is great news!!! We are tackling the creating while at work thing now.  I was keeping her in the small create that she sleeps in thinking she would feel more secure...wrong! So I bumped up to a medium with some shreaded newspaper in there planning on some pee or poop for a while.  Long story short, we are on day 3 of pee and poo free.  Also makes for a good excuse to leave work right on time.  Feel free to PM me with questions or ideas for me since we seem to be going through this interesting time at about the same time.
Mike

[Gobble]

That is great news!!! We are tackling the creating while at work thing now.  I was keeping her in the small create that she sleeps in thinking she would feel more secure...wrong! So I bumped up to a medium with some shreaded newspaper in there planning on some pee or poop for a while.  Long story short, we are on day 3 of pee and poo free.  Also makes for a good excuse to leave work right on time.  Feel free to PM me with questions or ideas for me since we seem to be going through this interesting time at about the same time.
Mike

Thats awesome, sounds like things are starting to settle down in your house as well. Our crate is med size and really doesn't give him aywhere to poop or pee, so far he hasn't gone once in it. Our pup will be 7 wks old tomorrow and always goes pee outside when we take him, last night he waited by the backdoor to go but no one got over in time to let him out. At least he now knows that the place to go is outside instead of inside ......Making progress 

[wildweeds]

6 1/2 weeks is to young to seperate, 8 weeks,Richard Wolters 7 weeks is Bullarky,weaning young creates clingy neurotics IMO,I've seen the outcome of it many times.What I would suggest and what I do when seperating pups from a litter is......... Take a bath towel  back to where you got the pup and rub down momma and the remaining littermates,the familiar scent of family will calm and make the pup more at home and secure,far less whining.Take a couple for when there is an accident.

[BD1]

I will let Gobble answer for himself...Unless Bullarky is some author/trainer we can just agree to disagree. Cedar has been a wonderful dog with no issues with separation. Debating the age for separating is for another thread I think...of course we are all entitled to our own opinion.  Gobble, glad to see things turning your way 
Mike

[Happy Gilmore]

I'm not down with 6 weeks. Gal i know just got a chocolate from the breeder on an island. She had 11 or 12 pups so probably didn't want the mess of that many 7 to 8 week old puppies. Obviously experienced. lol.

The last two weeks is hell as a breeder cleaning up and feeding. There is a reason some folks say 6 weeks. They can't take doing the work anymore is the only one.

[Gobble]

I will let Gobble answer for himself...Unless Bullarky is some author/trainer we can just agree to disagree. Cedar has been a wonderful dog with no issues with separation. Debating the age for separating is for another thread I think...of course we are all entitled to our own opinion.  Gobble, glad to see things turning your way 
Mike

I do think 8 wks is perfect for seperating mom and pups, it gives them time to grow up a little and develop, but I didn't have a choice so with that said my pup is showing no ill effects from being seperated at 6 wks, after the first week with us he is now settling down perfectly, pooping and peeing outside and only getting up at 4:00am to pee (which is when I leave for work) he is turning into a good little guy. I have been working with him on retreiving and until yesterday really didn't show alot of interest. Now he is starting to go after balls and a training dummy, sometimes bringing back and sometimes not, he is young and right now as long as he shows interest in going after the dummy at short distances Im good with that, he will be just fine. Little steps.........

[BD1]

Yeah I know your original post was not to elicit lectures but to share some struggles.  Glad to hear things are working well.  My little girl is having fun being a puppy, which can be trying at times.  I haven’t done a lot with retrieving aside from rolling the toy out 4 or 5 times then calling it good, she is bringing it right back though.  Did the wing test when I picked her.  I am sure you are like me and read a lot since it has been a while since you trained.  Don’t forget the hallway technique…worked great with my last dog…if I can remember that long ago.  Life is so great with a dog in the house!!! Enjoy and keep us posted.  I still can’t upload a picture for some reason…any ideas  ?

Mike

[Becky]

[BD1]

Here she is

[BD1]

I would be remiss if I didn't thank Ireland Farms and Warren for this little brown blessing...

[Gobble]

Great lookin Pup! I will post a couple more pics later today

[Becky]

Yay! so very cute, both of them.

[RainingSteel]

Here she is

Is that a Ben pup?

[BD1]

Yes it is...Ben and Aussie (choc)...sister by lineage to cove. 

[BD1]

Any updates Gobble?  Cedar is growing like a weed!!! Going for last series of shots.

[BD1]

So Gobble....how goes the "process"...I know mine has had its moments but man I love this dog  Hope all is well with yours   
Mike

[Happy Gilmore]

6 1/2 weeks is to young to seperate, 8 weeks,Richard Wolters 7 weeks is Bullarky,weaning young creates clingy neurotics IMO,I've seen the outcome of it many times.What I would suggest and what I do when seperating pups from a litter is......... Take a bath towel  back to where you got the pup and rub down momma and the remaining littermates,the familiar scent of family will calm and make the pup more at home and secure,far less whining.Take a couple for when there is an accident.

Always nice when somebody pushes their OPINION as fact. Even better when they go on and say a guy that knows a thousand time more than they do on the subject is wrong 

you can't be referring to Wolters? he never made a dog of his own.