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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2015, 11:24:06 AM »
Me and my .270 would be looking to get closer on any big game past 400 yrds. Without an expensive BDC scope and lots of range time to prove to myself I can go longer I will not try it.

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2015, 11:40:53 AM »
how I look at it:

Long range: The point where you can no longer use the reticle in your scope and are forced to dial.

ELR: the point where you start the second revolution on your dial.


now for Hunting, Long range would be whatever the range is when you drop below 1500 foot pounds and are still above 1000 foot pounds of energy.


so basicly, you need to know your weapon.

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2015, 11:48:25 AM »
also, we need to know the conditions that affect the bullet. Practice in the worst crap you can find.

Pictured is the result from a real crappy practice day. Range is 500 yards, wind was 20 to 30 MPH fron 1:00 and 2:00. Made 11 of 15 on the plate this is shooting from a rock, not prone.

no way in hell I would take this shot on an animal.


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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2015, 02:00:58 PM »
Coach.. My Spin Drift comment was sarcasm.  Your average hunter has no idea what/how to compensate for it. I see hunters time and again shooting offhand at game way too far out there, with their 'magnum'. One set of guys last season, we GPS'd to be ~660yds from their targets with a 30+ degree down hill shot. We didn't see those hunters range those deer in the canyon. They might have. If they only guessed '500yds' when it was a corrected 550ish they still would have had to dial in some 35+ inches of compensation for a 300wm zeroed at 300yds. We didn't see them take the time.  The comments earlier about 'personal limits' are spot on, but I'll bet there are shooters that really think they can, when in fact they have no justification even trying. Ethical is also spot on. If you can't make that shot 'I'll say 8 of 10 times', because a kidney shot is just as good as a double lung'er! Ask any bow hunter! 

I'm sorry to get off on a tangent, but this is a subject that gets me fired up. Your OP was about 'Accuracy and Long range hunting', and I think we're (I maybe?) diverging to poor choices by people that think they are long range hunters when in fact, they likely don't have the proper equipment and/or skill to be have earned the title. Most hunters don't practice beyond 100yds, let alone 200.

I'm off my soap box now.  What specifics are we all willing to discuss/learn about Accuracy and Long range hunting?   

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2015, 02:33:23 PM »

I know you where kidding..... my post was to really make guys think about the whole long range hunting aspects and whether or not they really have both the skill set and equipment to pull those shots of consistently . just like bow hunters that shoot 100 yards not much difference just the scale changes . I know guys that id bet money on them at 100 vrs others at forty. 

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2015, 02:44:06 PM »
Come on now, RT can hit his block target darn near every time at 40yards :chuckle:
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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2015, 03:03:54 PM »
 :chuckle:
Come on now, RT can hit his block target darn near every time at 40yards :chuckle:

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2015, 03:28:42 PM »
Am I the only one that practice practice practiced long range stuff to only shoot chip shots ?? I've had one opportunity at a 620 yard bull but got fogged out before the shot.....i shot one bull at 475 but that may or may not be "longrange"....that's in the last 16 weeks of rifle hunting with longrange capabilities

it's seems like you'd really have to hunt for that good shot in the long range game an I don't think alot of people realize that 

I can find beer cans at 1000 no problem tho  :tup:

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2015, 04:14:57 PM »
1903 springfield outta do it ! vrs 32 win

Don't know if the 1903 Springfield is a 1K hunting rifle but it's a very accurate military rifle.   I shoot a few of the '03s and 03-A3's.

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2015, 04:28:01 PM »
I wouldn't consider myself a long range hunter at all and most of my shots with a rifle are inside 200 yards, but for me, having the ability and the option to take that long poke is essential.  I put out a lot of time and money to go on all my hunts every fall and a punched tag is a requirement.  I want meat in my freezer, and antlers for the wall.  A successful hunt for me is good times spent in the mountains and a punched tag.  If that buck of a lifetime shows himself at last light, on the last day, at 650 yards, and there is no time for crossing the drainage to get a closer shot than I want the ability to take that shot and be successful.  Its just another tool in the box.   
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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2015, 04:37:32 PM »
Come on now, RT can hit his block target darn near every time at 40yards :chuckle:

Oh sure pick on my archery skills!!!  You just wish you were a lefty :chuckle:
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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2015, 04:44:10 PM »
Come on now, RT can hit his block target darn near every time at 40yards :chuckle:

Oh sure pick on my archery skills!!!  You just wish you were a lefty :chuckle:
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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2015, 08:33:35 PM »
I'm so lazy that I barely hunt, add long range hunting to that and I'm out. Long range hunting to me most of the time is anything more than 40 yards from my truck. :chuckle:

I just like to shoot at long range, but I hunt up close. The effort involved once you've made a hit at 1000 yards (at least everywhere I hunt) is 10 times the work of shooting an animal at under 100 yards. It has a lot to do with the terrain on the west side though. a 1000 yard shot usually means shooting across a valley of some kind. I'm just too lazy to climb down one side, up the other, then back with a bunch of extra weight!

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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2015, 08:36:51 PM »
I'm so lazy that I barely hunt, add long range hunting to that and I'm out. Long range hunting to me most of the time is anything more than 40 yards from my truck. :chuckle:

I just like to shoot at long range, but I hunt up close. The effort involved once you've made a hit at 1000 yards (at least everywhere I hunt) is 10 times the work of shooting an animal at under 100 yards. It has a lot to do with the terrain on the west side though. a 1000 yard shot usually means shooting across a valley of some kind. I'm just too lazy to climb down one side, up the other, then back with a bunch of extra weight!
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Re: Accuracy and long range hunting
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2015, 08:48:20 PM »
I'm so lazy that I barely hunt, add long range hunting to that and I'm out. Long range hunting to me most of the time is anything more than 40 yards from my truck. :chuckle:

I just like to shoot at long range, but I hunt up close. The effort involved once you've made a hit at 1000 yards (at least everywhere I hunt) is 10 times the work of shooting an animal at under 100 yards. It has a lot to do with the terrain on the west side though. a 1000 yard shot usually means shooting across a valley of some kind. I'm just too lazy to climb down one side, up the other, then back with a bunch of extra weight!

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Well said..... :chuckle:

 


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