That's right you take someone out who has never hunted them and call one off the roost first thing they think that's it. The last few years I've snicked up on the toms I've shot because there all hen up. Sense I moved over here to the West side I don't have time to scout, but if you scout and find there strutting area's, you can set up there with your decoys and call, most of the time you will score right off the roost. But once you think you've got them figured out they do something off the wall.