SB 5233 Notice Against Trespass

[KFhunter]

they should be prosecuted,  how often does that happen?

[KFhunter]

It's already illegal to trespass. This really wouldn't change much. Like Bob33 said, with GPS technology, people should always know whose land they are on anyway.

The law is like this in Idaho and it seems to work for them.

I don't have enough feelings about it one way or the other to have a heated argument over it, if it passes then we'll deal with it good or bad.  By proxy I'm against new laws by default until I'm shown a need for it;   I don't see a great need for this only convenience for larger land holders....and I'm not sure I want to make it easier for them.

 

[jrebel]

Not in favor....know where your hunting.  Buy a GPS, do your homework and go hunt.  Last thing I want to see is orange paint on every tree in the woods. 

[csaaphill]

Orange corner marker, NO HUNTING sign,  NO TRESPASSING sign. ............is there really any other excuse needed to not knowing you're trespassing?? Pretty sad

Turn the bino's around and look at the issue from the other way around,  it could keep people from utilizing public lands, feel free to hunt or timber lands that's OK to hunt because there's a line of paint on the trees. 

Like BT said, there's paint and ribbons and crap hung all over the place; heck I don't even know what it all is.

Also, it would be almost impossible to convict anyone from this.

too easy for someone to come along and put up orange tape on an area in hopes to keep out people.

[JimmyHoffa]

It's already illegal to trespass. This really wouldn't change much. Like Bob33 said, with GPS technology, people should always know whose land they are on anyway.

The law is like this in Idaho and it seems to work for them.

You make the inference that everyone should own a GPS...and either have the map chip or a smart phone and hunt in an area with reception. 
The guys with maps and using the assessor's site will be updated to the last date their info was updated.  So, then they roll in to the woods and somebody sprayed a hundred random trees.  Now they have to go to a back up spot while determining if a parcel was subdivided or if a timber company did a land swap with DNR since their last update.  Seems it could be a mess, especially how cheap and easy one can of paint could be vs hanging signs.  The huggers could be out there marking everything in sight.

[bobcat]

It's already illegal to trespass. This really wouldn't change much. Like Bob33 said, with GPS technology, people should always know whose land they are on anyway.

The law is like this in Idaho and it seems to work for them.

You make the inference that everyone should own a GPS...and either have the map chip or a smart phone and hunt in an area with reception. 
The guys with maps and using the assessor's site will be updated to the last date their info was updated.  So, then they roll in to the woods and somebody sprayed a hundred random trees.  Now they have to go to a back up spot while determining if a parcel was subdivided or if a timber company did a land swap with DNR since their last update.  Seems it could be a mess, especially how cheap and easy one can of paint could be vs hanging signs.  The huggers could be out there marking everything in sight.

You still need to know where you are, GPS or not. In the past I always just used a map and compass. If I saw some painted trees I wouldn't let that stop me if I knew I could legally hunt beyond that line.

Again, they use paint to mark property lines in Idaho, and Wyoming, so I'm not sure why it will work there but not here. I really don't see how it would change anything in the real world anyway. I don't care if a landowner wants to put up a sign or spray paint on a fence post. If the landowner would rather use the paint I don't see why they shouldn't have the option.

[csaaphill]

It's already illegal to trespass. This really wouldn't change much. Like Bob33 said, with GPS technology, people should always know whose land they are on anyway.

The law is like this in Idaho and it seems to work for them.

You make the inference that everyone should own a GPS...and either have the map chip or a smart phone and hunt in an area with reception. 
The guys with maps and using the assessor's site will be updated to the last date their info was updated.  So, then they roll in to the woods and somebody sprayed a hundred random trees.  Now they have to go to a back up spot while determining if a parcel was subdivided or if a timber company did a land swap with DNR since their last update.  Seems it could be a mess, especially how cheap and easy one can of paint could be vs hanging signs.  The huggers could be out there marking everything in sight.

ya hope that never happens where it's mandatory to carry one ill throw mine away. I have it like it used it the first time this year worked great told me exaclty where the road was and which direction to walk, but make it mandatry it's chucked!

[Firedogg]

A landowner should not be required to mark their property. It is up to the person in the woods to identify the property they are on and get permission.

  The orange stripe idea won't work because it is too easy for areas to be mismarked and even when full signs are put up there are still trespassers. Make it a harsher penalty for trespassing and help land owner's protect their rights.  Know before you go!

[bigtex]

Make it a harsher penalty for trespassing and help land owner's protect their rights.  Know before you go!

The penalty isn't the problem. It's the lack of prosecution that is the problem.

[Boss .300 winmag]

Heck my property is posted and people still trespass. 

My son caught some idiots today sitting on stump on our property eating crackers while there car was parked in the ditch. 

He asked them to leave politely and they said what's the difference between the stump and car was. Our fence is down as I'm currently in the process of replacing it.

He told them that's the ditch this is private property, they left.

[Curly]

Orange corner marker, NO HUNTING sign,  NO TRESPASSING sign. ............is there really any other excuse needed to not knowing you're trespassing?? Pretty sad

Turn the bino's around and look at the issue from the other way around,  it could keep people from utilizing public lands, feel free to hunt or timber lands that's OK to hunt because there's a line of paint on the trees. 

Like BT said, there's paint and ribbons and crap hung all over the place; heck I don't even know what it all is.

Also, it would be almost impossible to convict anyone from this.

I think it would be easier to convict trespassers since they can't tear down the signs like they currently do and claim ignorance.  Hard to claim they don't see a line of orange painted trees.

I don't really care either though, but I wouldn't have a problem if it passes (the only change I'd recommend if I cared would be to increase the spacing requirement).

[Humptulips]

orange vertical mark is a pretty common way to mark tail trees in a timber sale area.

[stevemiller]

  Also like to add that prosecuters should prosecute more of these anti hunters that are claiming public property with no hunting no trespassing signs,Even putting cable across roads that are not private and marking them private.Huge problem in Goldendale.

[rasbo]

Make it a harsher penalty for trespassing and help land owner's protect their rights.  Know before you go!

The penalty isn't the problem. It's the lack of prosecution that is the problem.

bingo, try getting LE to come to a trespasser call,if tickets were written and every call responded to soon the trespassing would really slow down,,we have tresspassers daily on clearly marked property.Illegals hunting and searching for metals a constant,,,

[buckcanyonlodge]

No..Hell no.     Idiot local "hunters" post land of absentee landowners , timber co. land , and state land just so they can hunt it themselves. This will make it easier for them to post more land that should be available to hunt. Won't change a thing as far as catching or charging trespassers. I had a hunter cross a fence, go past No Trespassing signs , and sat in one of my blinds. I did catch him and persuaded to let me take a picture of his hunting license. AND , the trespasser worked for Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. I insisted on prosecution. After three call from the prosecuting attorney to plea bargain (which I rejected) he was convicted of trespassing... This will be a great law for cheaters. If it passes I will buy stock in orange spray paint companies.  Guess I should stock up now before everyone posts their favorite hunting spot.. I know some good public land here in Stevens County that would make a great "private" hunting spot.