SB 5233 Notice Against Trespass

[bigtex]

Well, it's back!

SB 5233 would make a fluorescent orange marking equivalent to a "No Trespassing" sign. The only exception is along access roads which would require a sign.

"Posting in a conspicuous manner" includes posting a sign or signs reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders, indicating that entry is restricted or, if the property is located outside of urban growth areas and incorporated cities or towns, the placement of identifying fluorescent orange paint marks on trees or posts on property.

(a) Identifying fluorescent orange marks must be:
(i)  Vertical lines not less than eight inches in length and not less than one inch in width;
(ii)  Placed so that the bottom of the mark is between three and five feet from the ground; and
(iii)  Placed at locations that are readily visible to any person approaching the property and no more than one hundred feet apart on forest land, as defined in RCW  76.09.020, or one thousand feet apart on land other than forest land.
(b)  A landowner must use signs for posting in a conspicuous manner on access roads.

The bill is sponsored by Senators Sheldon, Dansel, Dammeier, Becker, Schoesler, and Honeyford. All are Republicans except Sheldon, however he caucus' with Republicans.

http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2015-16/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/5233.pdf

[bobcat]

I don't see any reason why that shouldn't be law. It will make it a lot easier and cheaper for landowners to post their property.

[csaaphill]

too many laws now too many big land owners taking peoples favorite hunt spots now as it is so heck no!

[KFhunter]

sounds like it'd make things more confusing not less, especially in timber sale areas.

[bigtex]

I don't like it. Is that mark a timber sale mark? A mark made by a utility company? Did someone just come up here and spray orange paint everywhere?

[Bob33]

Personally I don't care.  My modern technology a hunter should know whose land he's on, paint or no paint.

[csaaphill]

easier to tear down

[bobcat]

easier to tear down

A fence post or a tree with paint on it is easier to tear down than a plastic sign?   

[Curly]

I have no problem with it. The problem currently is dirtbags will tear down signs and claim there was no sign so they didn't know they couldn't be there. This would help give them that out.

[MtnMuley]

Orange corner marker, NO HUNTING sign,  NO TRESPASSING sign. ............is there really any other excuse needed to not knowing you're trespassing?? Pretty sad

[Curly]

sounds like it'd make things more confusing not less, especially in timber sale areas.

I don't believe timber sale areas use vertical orange lines. 100' apart may be a little too close of spacing though.

[JimmyHoffa]

I have no problem with it. The problem currently is dirtbags will tear down signs and claim there was no sign so they didn't know they couldn't be there. This would help give them that out.

what about the dirtbags that are going to go in before the season and spray paint their own new boundaries to direct people elsewhere?

[KFhunter]

Orange corner marker, NO HUNTING sign,  NO TRESPASSING sign. ............is there really any other excuse needed to not knowing you're trespassing?? Pretty sad

Turn the bino's around and look at the issue from the other way around,  it could keep people from utilizing public lands, feel free to hunt or timber lands that's OK to hunt because there's a line of paint on the trees. 

Like BT said, there's paint and ribbons and crap hung all over the place; heck I don't even know what it all is.

Also, it would be almost impossible to convict anyone from this.

[Curly]

I have no problem with it. The problem currently is dirtbags will tear down signs and claim there was no sign so they didn't know they couldn't be there. This would help give them that out.

what about the dirtbags that are going to go in before the season and spray paint their own new boundaries to direct people elsewhere?

I don't know.  What about the guys that post public land to keep guys off it so they can have to themselves?

[bobcat]

It's already illegal to trespass. This really wouldn't change much. Like Bob33 said, with GPS technology, people should always know whose land they are on anyway.

The law is like this in Idaho and it seems to work for them.