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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2015, 10:02:45 PM »
One thing we need to remember in this state, is that even if delisting happens and even if wdfw allowed a season, the stupid voters would  have an initiative out really fast preventing the killing of wolves.  Hunting won't even keep them in check much anyway, but I know it would make us feel better being able to legally shoot them.
I think if the more of the state was having wolf problems there would be a much greater cry for a wolf hunting season. I understand how this sounds. Ever wonder why most the people crying about delisting are in the NE wa(yes not all). It's because of what we are dealing with, what we've seen and been through. None of us want more wolves or to wish these problems for any one else. But we do want delisting! If you lived here you would be on this side of the fence!

I think that is wishful thinking. Especially in Pugetropilis. Probably be more worried about how long the line is at Starbucks then what wolves are doing. Pretty hard to concern someone who works in a cubicle and lives in a condo donating money to the cliché` hugger cause of the day.

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #76 on: January 19, 2015, 10:03:27 PM »
One thing we need to remember in this state, is that even if delisting happens and even if wdfw allowed a season, the stupid voters would  have an initiative out really fast preventing the killing of wolves.  Hunting won't even keep them in check much anyway, but I know it would make us feel better being able to legally shoot them.
I think if the more of the state was having wolf problems there would be a much greater cry for a wolf hunting season. I understand how this sounds. Ever wonder why most the people crying about delisting are in the NE wa(yes not all). It's because of what we are dealing with, what we've seen and been through. None of us want more wolves or to wish these problems for any one else. But we do want delisting! If you lived here you would be on this side of the fence!

 What will be the result of delisting in this state?
hopfully a hunting and trapping season. They can't protect them forever! Something is going to break. Like I said earlier if there is a major out cry from everywhere in the state(not just eastern wa) it would be harder to ignore.  Also like I said earlier we are never getting rid of wolves they are here to stay, we may as we'll get to enjoy hunting them and make the most out of these lemons
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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #77 on: January 19, 2015, 10:06:39 PM »
What will be the result of delisting in this state?
A voter initiative to protect wolves forever. 
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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #78 on: January 19, 2015, 10:07:18 PM »
I hope your wrong humptulips. I'm not ready to give up on this state yet but Idaho is looking better everyday. I know I'm not the only one with this dream
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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2015, 10:08:30 PM »
One thing we need to remember in this state, is that even if delisting happens and even if wdfw allowed a season, the stupid voters would  have an initiative out really fast preventing the killing of wolves.  Hunting won't even keep them in check much anyway, but I know it would make us feel better being able to legally shoot them.
I think if the more of the state was having wolf problems there would be a much greater cry for a wolf hunting season. I understand how this sounds. Ever wonder why most the people crying about delisting are in the NE wa(yes not all). It's because of what we are dealing with, what we've seen and been through. None of us want more wolves or to wish these problems for any one else. But we do want delisting! If you lived here you would be on this side of the fence!

 What will be the result of delisting in this state?

We will see something very similar to our current cougar plan once WDFW delist and allow hunting.

hmm, I wonder if the cougar plan is a test model for wolf management now I think about it ?

 I don't believe we will ever see wolf hunting in this state. Lobbyists and liberal politicians in this state will make sure CNW, Humane Society and other anti hunting groups will be well informed on when to begin their law suits, which will take years.
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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #80 on: January 19, 2015, 10:08:55 PM »
I said they wouldn't naturally make it to the Olympic peninsula. It just seems unlikely  to me.  If they finish off what's left of the St Helens elk herd, maybe they would make their way across interstate 5 into the Willipa Hills, eat up a bunch of those elk and work their way north eventually reaching the peninsula, but to me that seems really unlikely.

Any ranchers think about filing a lawsuit against the wdfw? I think they should for the stupid plan they came up with.  If they move wolves to other parts of the state,  they should be sued too.
Once you get south of Olympia I think there are a few places where they can make it across I-5.  I seem to remember some bridges down by Toutle/Cowlits with greenbelts and a bit of a corridor beneath.  But once across, I think they would make it up north pretty quickly.  Fishers were released in the park and didn't waste much time spreading down south.

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #81 on: January 19, 2015, 10:09:27 PM »
One thing we need to remember in this state, is that even if delisting happens and even if wdfw allowed a season, the stupid voters would  have an initiative out really fast preventing the killing of wolves.  Hunting won't even keep them in check much anyway, but I know it would make us feel better being able to legally shoot them.
I think if the more of the state was having wolf problems there would be a much greater cry for a wolf hunting season. I understand how this sounds. Ever wonder why most the people crying about delisting are in the NE wa(yes not all). It's because of what we are dealing with, what we've seen and been through. None of us want more wolves or to wish these problems for any one else. But we do want delisting! If you lived here you would be on this side of the fence!

 What will be the result of delisting in this state?
hopfully a hunting and trapping season. They can't protect them forever! Something is going to break. Like I said earlier if there is a major out cry from everywhere in the state(not just eastern wa) it would be harder to ignore.  Also like I said earlier we are never getting rid of wolves they are here to stay, we may as we'll get to enjoy hunting them and make the most out of these lemons

Even if we got a trapping season do you think you are catching one in a cage trap? lMAO!!! wait  :'(    Look this state will never approve snaring wich seems to be the only effective way to trap and manage them

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #82 on: January 19, 2015, 10:09:38 PM »
What will be the result of delisting in this state?
A voter initiative to protect wolves forever.

 Ain't that the sad truth!
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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2015, 10:10:11 PM »
Foot holds and a nuisense permit :dunno:
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #84 on: January 19, 2015, 10:12:42 PM »
I said they wouldn't naturally make it to the Olympic peninsula. It just seems unlikely  to me.  If they finish off what's left of the St Helens elk herd, maybe they would make their way across interstate 5 into the Willipa Hills, eat up a bunch of those elk and work their way north eventually reaching the peninsula, but to me that seems really unlikely.

Any ranchers think about filing a lawsuit against the wdfw? I think they should for the stupid plan they came up with.  If they move wolves to other parts of the state,  they should be sued too.
Once you get south of Olympia I think there are a few places where they can make it across I-5.  I seem to remember some bridges down by Toutle/Cowlits with greenbelts and a bit of a corridor beneath.  But once across, I think they would make it up north pretty quickly.  Fishers were released in the park and didn't waste much time spreading down south.

like a coyote on a fence line,  wolves love trotting down along barriers until they find a river with a bridge and pass under it.

I-5 is no barrier to a wolf/s

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2015, 10:14:12 PM »
If oly wants wolves in washington, then shouldnt washington want wolves in oly?

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2015, 10:14:25 PM »
Foot holds are not allowed either, nor will they ever be again

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2015, 10:15:20 PM »
We already know hunting and trapping cannot affect wolf numbers but it can boost economies and bring in more money for wdfw threw tag sales
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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2015, 10:18:12 PM »
If oly wants wolves in washington, then shouldnt washington want wolves in oly?


Who says Olympia wants wolves in Washington?   :dunno:

The WDFW didn't want them, but we got them anyway.

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Re: Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves
« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2015, 10:18:51 PM »
Foot holds are not allowed either, nor will they ever be again

They are allowed with a landowner permit, bio's also use them.

The mechanism's are in place for limited permitted usage.

 


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