Got my elk back from butcher...somethings fishy

[csaaphill]

Been reading about bad butcher care a lot these days. Do these people know they corner the market so they don't care anymore or what? Hope if asked your Pming people who this guy is so they don't have that same mistake in the future. hate that since htis is a dying breed and art cutting and and wrapping, and butchering game meat people think they can just mess with people like this. This sucks.

I don't see how Butchers have a corner on the market? 

There are several good butchers out there.  The one I use I have never had issue with. I have not heard any bad reviews from the people I have sent to him.

Didn't say there aren't good ones, but I have been reading on different forumns how they got screwed on Elk, and other game meats. They do kind of corner it nowdays for it is a dying business. Theres only one or two near us, and only one that will take game meat, the other wont even touch it. The on I liked he died and went out of business his son klled himself so ya aint no one to take his business anymore. he actually only did it for us because he knew us, but he'd quit doing game meat years before. So yes they do! Seems like I see at least one, or two on here every year. The other forum I've been going to just had one where he was missing meat, and just like this was more likely not his elk he'd braught in. Meaning he the butcher mixed his meat with others etc...
So yes it's a dying bread much like Taxidermists not a lot of call for them as it used to be, or ferriers (people that show horses) Not a huge demand for them either only in selective markets. Obviously on the Wet side and over there there may be a few more than here, but most here will only do cow and pig and rarlely sheep, htey don't even touch game meat anymore. If I dont use the guy down the street from me I'd have to drive well over 50-60 miles out of my way to get one that actually does game meat.

There are quite a few Butchers around me.  Just off the top of my head I can think of Stewarts, Heritage, Western, Beef Shop, Littlerock, and a few I can't think of the names of but are fairly local.  That the slaughter trucks will deliver to from my location.  Not as many people raising and slaughtering beef for themselves since you can buy it in the store.

There are actually more Licensed Taxidermists today then there was 20 years ago.  Now a days anyone with a computer and access to YouTube can watch a few videos, thrown a set of eyes and a skin on a manikin and call themselves a Taxidermist.

Where? none around me taxidermists I mean. Only Taxidermist I know of other than heading to Seattle or that sides is like 170 miles away. That doesn't mean their taxidermists it just means they take the time to utilise the internet. Heck there are a few on here that advertise, and heck theres enough information on here that one can get if they search this site hard enough they can do their own too, that's not the point. thepoint is other than youtube and other such sites there are not a lot of Taxidermists around any more. Maybe in your neck of the woods but not near me. there used to be one close by but he closed. So now If I want taxidermist done and not wanting to troll youtube for hours i'd have to drive 170 miles at least.

[Michelle_Nelson]

Been reading about bad butcher care a lot these days. Do these people know they corner the market so they don't care anymore or what? Hope if asked your Pming people who this guy is so they don't have that same mistake in the future. hate that since htis is a dying breed and art cutting and and wrapping, and butchering game meat people think they can just mess with people like this. This sucks.

I don't see how Butchers have a corner on the market? 

There are several good butchers out there.  The one I use I have never had issue with. I have not heard any bad reviews from the people I have sent to him.

Didn't say there aren't good ones, but I have been reading on different forumns how they got screwed on Elk, and other game meats. They do kind of corner it nowdays for it is a dying business. Theres only one or two near us, and only one that will take game meat, the other wont even touch it. The on I liked he died and went out of business his son klled himself so ya aint no one to take his business anymore. he actually only did it for us because he knew us, but he'd quit doing game meat years before. So yes they do! Seems like I see at least one, or two on here every year. The other forum I've been going to just had one where he was missing meat, and just like this was more likely not his elk he'd braught in. Meaning he the butcher mixed his meat with others etc...
So yes it's a dying bread much like Taxidermists not a lot of call for them as it used to be, or ferriers (people that show horses) Not a huge demand for them either only in selective markets. Obviously on the Wet side and over there there may be a few more than here, but most here will only do cow and pig and rarlely sheep, htey don't even touch game meat anymore. If I dont use the guy down the street from me I'd have to drive well over 50-60 miles out of my way to get one that actually does game meat.

There are quite a few Butchers around me.  Just off the top of my head I can think of Stewarts, Heritage, Western, Beef Shop, Littlerock, and a few I can't think of the names of but are fairly local.  That the slaughter trucks will deliver to from my location.  Not as many people raising and slaughtering beef for themselves since you can buy it in the store.

There are actually more Licensed Taxidermists today then there was 20 years ago.  Now a days anyone with a computer and access to YouTube can watch a few videos, thrown a set of eyes and a skin on a manikin and call themselves a Taxidermist.

Where? none around me taxidermists I mean. Only Taxidermist I know of other than heading to Seattle or that sides is like 170 miles away. That doesn't mean their taxidermists it just means they take the time to utilise the internet. Heck there are a few on here that advertise, and heck theres enough information on here that one can get if they search this site hard enough they can do their own too, that's not the point. thepoint is other than youtube and other such sites there are not a lot of Taxidermists around any more. Maybe in your neck of the woods but not near me. there used to be one close by but he closed. So now If I want taxidermist done and not wanting to troll youtube for hours i'd have to drive 170 miles at least.

Your area may not support a Full time Taxidermist.  But I guarantee you there are more taxidermists today by far then there was 20 years ago.  I have a lot of friends in the business in many states some have been doing this 4x longer than I have and they will say the same thing.  We get into this discussion a couple times a year.

[csaaphill]

Been reading about bad butcher care a lot these days. Do these people know they corner the market so they don't care anymore or what? Hope if asked your Pming people who this guy is so they don't have that same mistake in the future. hate that since htis is a dying breed and art cutting and and wrapping, and butchering game meat people think they can just mess with people like this. This sucks.

I don't see how Butchers have a corner on the market? 

There are several good butchers out there.  The one I use I have never had issue with. I have not heard any bad reviews from the people I have sent to him.

Didn't say there aren't good ones, but I have been reading on different forumns how they got screwed on Elk, and other game meats. They do kind of corner it nowdays for it is a dying business. Theres only one or two near us, and only one that will take game meat, the other wont even touch it. The on I liked he died and went out of business his son klled himself so ya aint no one to take his business anymore. he actually only did it for us because he knew us, but he'd quit doing game meat years before. So yes they do! Seems like I see at least one, or two on here every year. The other forum I've been going to just had one where he was missing meat, and just like this was more likely not his elk he'd braught in. Meaning he the butcher mixed his meat with others etc...
So yes it's a dying bread much like Taxidermists not a lot of call for them as it used to be, or ferriers (people that show horses) Not a huge demand for them either only in selective markets. Obviously on the Wet side and over there there may be a few more than here, but most here will only do cow and pig and rarlely sheep, htey don't even touch game meat anymore. If I dont use the guy down the street from me I'd have to drive well over 50-60 miles out of my way to get one that actually does game meat.

There are quite a few Butchers around me.  Just off the top of my head I can think of Stewarts, Heritage, Western, Beef Shop, Littlerock, and a few I can't think of the names of but are fairly local.  That the slaughter trucks will deliver to from my location.  Not as many people raising and slaughtering beef for themselves since you can buy it in the store.

There are actually more Licensed Taxidermists today then there was 20 years ago.  Now a days anyone with a computer and access to YouTube can watch a few videos, thrown a set of eyes and a skin on a manikin and call themselves a Taxidermist.

Where? none around me taxidermists I mean. Only Taxidermist I know of other than heading to Seattle or that sides is like 170 miles away. That doesn't mean their taxidermists it just means they take the time to utilise the internet. Heck there are a few on here that advertise, and heck theres enough information on here that one can get if they search this site hard enough they can do their own too, that's not the point. thepoint is other than youtube and other such sites there are not a lot of Taxidermists around any more. Maybe in your neck of the woods but not near me. there used to be one close by but he closed. So now If I want taxidermist done and not wanting to troll youtube for hours i'd have to drive 170 miles at least.

Your area may not support a Full time Taxidermist.  But I guarantee you there are more taxidermists today by far then there was 20 years ago.  I have a lot of friends in the business in many states some have been doing this 4x longer than I have and they will say the same thing.  We get into this discussion a couple times a year.

not to keep arguing but I highly dobt it. I was watching a show hunting show on the outdoor chanel and they were stating that taxidermy is a dying art.

[Michelle_Nelson]

Been reading about bad butcher care a lot these days. Do these people know they corner the market so they don't care anymore or what? Hope if asked your Pming people who this guy is so they don't have that same mistake in the future. hate that since htis is a dying breed and art cutting and and wrapping, and butchering game meat people think they can just mess with people like this. This sucks.

I don't see how Butchers have a corner on the market? 

There are several good butchers out there.  The one I use I have never had issue with. I have not heard any bad reviews from the people I have sent to him.

Didn't say there aren't good ones, but I have been reading on different forumns how they got screwed on Elk, and other game meats. They do kind of corner it nowdays for it is a dying business. Theres only one or two near us, and only one that will take game meat, the other wont even touch it. The on I liked he died and went out of business his son klled himself so ya aint no one to take his business anymore. he actually only did it for us because he knew us, but he'd quit doing game meat years before. So yes they do! Seems like I see at least one, or two on here every year. The other forum I've been going to just had one where he was missing meat, and just like this was more likely not his elk he'd braught in. Meaning he the butcher mixed his meat with others etc...
So yes it's a dying bread much like Taxidermists not a lot of call for them as it used to be, or ferriers (people that show horses) Not a huge demand for them either only in selective markets. Obviously on the Wet side and over there there may be a few more than here, but most here will only do cow and pig and rarlely sheep, htey don't even touch game meat anymore. If I dont use the guy down the street from me I'd have to drive well over 50-60 miles out of my way to get one that actually does game meat.

There are quite a few Butchers around me.  Just off the top of my head I can think of Stewarts, Heritage, Western, Beef Shop, Littlerock, and a few I can't think of the names of but are fairly local.  That the slaughter trucks will deliver to from my location.  Not as many people raising and slaughtering beef for themselves since you can buy it in the store.

There are actually more Licensed Taxidermists today then there was 20 years ago.  Now a days anyone with a computer and access to YouTube can watch a few videos, thrown a set of eyes and a skin on a manikin and call themselves a Taxidermist.

Where? none around me taxidermists I mean. Only Taxidermist I know of other than heading to Seattle or that sides is like 170 miles away. That doesn't mean their taxidermists it just means they take the time to utilise the internet. Heck there are a few on here that advertise, and heck theres enough information on here that one can get if they search this site hard enough they can do their own too, that's not the point. thepoint is other than youtube and other such sites there are not a lot of Taxidermists around any more. Maybe in your neck of the woods but not near me. there used to be one close by but he closed. So now If I want taxidermist done and not wanting to troll youtube for hours i'd have to drive 170 miles at least.

Your area may not support a Full time Taxidermist.  But I guarantee you there are more taxidermists today by far then there was 20 years ago.  I have a lot of friends in the business in many states some have been doing this 4x longer than I have and they will say the same thing.  We get into this discussion a couple times a year.

not to keep arguing but I highly dobt it. I was watching a show hunting show on the outdoor chanel and they were stating that taxidermy is a dying art.

Please don't tell me you believe everything you hear on TV. 

The reason they say Taxidermy is a dying art is because the market has become so advanced that pretty much anyone that gets ahold of a few taxidermy videos or you-tube videos can put a pair of eyes on a form with a cape and they call themselves a Taxidermist.  Taxidermy Suppliers have come up with detailed inner noses, jawsets, pre made earliners, preset eyes already installed in forms, etc.  It makes it easy for people to get started.

It's when you get into doing Life Size, African, and Specialty poses where there are no forms you find out who the real taxidermists are.

Taxidermy is a dying art because it wasn't to long ago they were still making there own forms out of the real skull and paper mache with lead earliners.  Take a guess as to how many taxidermists can or could do that today?  Back then if you wanted an open mouth anything they used the real jaws and teeth.  Some lifesize were actually the entire cleaned skeleton wrapped and the skin mounted over.

Yes I would agree that "Real Taxidermy" is a dying art.  As far as the number of Taxidermists today?  No, there are more Taxidermists today then there was 20 years ago.

[jackelope]

Please keep this thread on track. It's about a butcher shop and a customer of the shop.

[jnutzalot]

Update 2: The Butcher did not call me back all day, again! I had to call back and the Manager once again gave me the runaround about the supposed employee that botched the order...My patience has about ran out at this point. He promises to call me tomorrow at 10:00 to settle this up. We'll see what happens, this is such a joke.

[h20hunter]

Stay the course man.....don't let up or give up until there is a resolution that you are satisfied with.

[Becky]

Stay the course man.....don't let up or give up until there is a resolution that you are satisfied with.

squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[jnutzalot]

Stay the course man.....don't let up or give up until there is a resolution that you are satisfied with.

I haven't and won't. I'm still being patient with him but I was sure to let him know today how dissatisfied I am with their service and communication. 

[Michelle_Nelson]

What did the butcher say about the Employee that cut up your Elk?  Is he still trying to get a hold of him? 

[stevemiller]

What kind of butcher shop has employees that they cant get ahold of within a few hours?Do butcher shops hire just anyone to work during the busy season?I would think if a person was taking their game into a butcher shop it would be cut up by a butcher that knows what they are doing not just some part time temp.

[KFhunter]

Update 2: The Butcher did not call me back all day, again! I had to call back and the Manager once again gave me the runaround about the supposed employee that botched the order...My patience has about ran out at this point. He promises to call me tomorrow at 10:00 to settle this up. We'll see what happens, this is such a joke.

This will be the runaround phase of dealing with a customer complaint.  Let us know when you're done with this and get to the customer retribution phase.

[KFhunter]

What did the butcher say about the Employee that cut up your Elk?  Is he still trying to get a hold of him?

"The employee" is irrelevant to the end consumer, sure the business owner will want to know who-what-when-where-why; but to the end consumer that's irrelevant.

It appears to me this business owner is using "the employee" as a scape goat type aid in giving the customer the run-a-round.

[stevemiller]

  They normally do,Even if they dont name one of their employees they blame some made up one.Or they blame an outside entity.

[Band]

The run around will continue until you either give up the fight or take it to a whole new level.  Guaranteed.