GSP Breeders

[Ruger]

Starting to look around at Breeders of QUALITY GSP's, so thought would turn to the forum and see what the repsonses are....  thanks in advance...

[Bluemoon]

Talk to Julie at Upland Hills GSP's....she is in Sequim....Her dogs are great for both companion and hunting.   You cannot go wrong with her..

[Birdguy]

What is your definition of a QUALITY GSP? What are you planning to do with this quality dog? Trials? Hunt? family dog with minimal health issues? A little more info may get you better results. I believe Happy Gilmore knows a few guys that have some good GSPs (national rated type dogs) but that may not be what you are looking for. Good luck, some great dogs out there so great pups should not be too hard to find.

[Ruger]

What I mean by quality is not some back yard breeder who breeds tons of litters per year, I know of a few lab breeders around that are like that and not interested in that at all.... 

So yes looking for....

1. Health
2. Hunting
3. Temperament
4. Companion

I can make a quality hunting dog a quality trials dog and vice versa....

[AspenBud]

Are you looking only in WA or is out of state an option? Are you looking for a trial breeding or something more versatile from something like a dog running in NAVHDA events?

[Ruger]

I am open to other states.... 

More into the versatile...hunting, temperament

[Commando]

When I was looking at a gsp before I decided on a lab I really liked a kennel in Idaho. I think Idaho hunting dogs it was called. From what I've heard they do a good job.

[constructeur]

Talk to Julie at Upland Hills GSP's....she is in Sequim....Her dogs are great for both companion and hunting.   You cannot go wrong with her..

Julie bought that business from Scott Samson who upon selling to her, moved to Ellensburg and started Sage Brush Gun Dogs, and runs a much tighter ship than she does.

When I dealt with Julie 2(ish) years ago she was merely brokering dogs for Jared Moss at Best Gun Dogs in Utah. Why anyone would want that in a day and age when we can do all the leg work ourselves on the internet is beyond me.

Sage Brush Gun Dogs: http://www.sagebrushgundogs.com/

NAVHDA has a search function on their site you should check out, it'll help you sort out test scores for NAVHDA breeders, handlers and dogs, and vet out health data, and other stuff useful to you.

http://www.navhda.org/testing/search-test-records

The only current PNW NAVHDA dog that has a VC title on it is a GSP from Sharp Shooter kennels...
 

[AspenBud]

I am open to other states.... 

More into the versatile...hunting, temperament

Disclaimer: I am not into shorthairs but based on what I've heard and seen...

You might look at Real Dog Kennel's, they were featured on American Gun Dog I believe and seem pretty focused on hunting.

You might also look at Dunfur Kennels over in Cheney.

Out of state kennels to look at...

Crosswind Kennels in Michigan, Scott Townsend has a very loyal following, his dogs are some of the winningest shorthairs in NSTRA history, I believe he is some national VP in the NSTRA and his regions include the PNW, and he's a wealth of knowledge. I've seen a couple of dogs that were not far from the tree of his line and they were hunting machines.

Monkeyshine Kennels in Michigan, again they have a loyal following and their dogs live and hunt a long time. For example I saw a gentleman post on another forum a while back some pictures of his dog from there with a grouse it had retrieved, the dog had spent half the day hunting and it was just shy of 15.

Wild Rose German Shorthairs down in Texas. No personal experience but I hear good things.

[johnr060]

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[RC3]

My training partner is breeding his female right now to a DK.  She has I belive the second highest PE score in VHDF, one of finest dogs I've been around, don't need to wow you with scores of your serious about training dogs you can come out and watch his and see how they work.  Let me know and I can give you more info?

[jackson7]

Ruger, you got me thinking. my gsp is getting older and I have to be thinking of getting another. I prefer smaller females . I will keep watching. good luck

[Elk whack master]

Any more good breeders in wa?  Just looking for more options on availability for next month or so. Can't wait till fall litters.    thanks for any leads!

[addicted2hunting]

sharp shooter...

[wildweeds]

GSP breeder of the year for AKC is in washington, Foxglove kennells, There's also Real Dog kennells who has GSPs ,Scott Chavez.I have it firsthand from a fella who has trained some real dog offsprings that they are great hunting dogs and super super easy to train.

[AspenBud]

GSP breeder of the year for AKC is in washington, Foxglove kennells, There's also Real Dog kennells who has GSPs ,Scott Chavez.I have it firsthand from a fella who has trained some real dog offsprings that they are great hunting dogs and super super easy to train.

Foxglove has a litter due this month and next. Last I heard they were taking deposits on both.

Real Dog's dogs were featured on American Gun Dog and I think the host of the show eventually bought a pup from them too.

[constructeur]

Now is when I'd be burning fuel to get out to tests and kennels and watch dogs work. Everyone says their dogs are the best/biddable/easy to live with, if you have a chance though, chat a few wives up and you'll hear who is a PITA to live with and who isn't 

Find out what's the difference in AKC vs. NAVHDA/VHDF vs. NSTRA and how it meshes with your hunting style....or not.

What size of GSP do you want? Where do white GSP's come from? How about black spots? Mother lines? What's a DK and what does that have to do with a GSP?

Does the kennel OFA, CERF, etc. their dogs? If not why not? If there is a training issue down the road will the kennel be willing to help you out (As best they can) or will you be asked to drive the dog back to the kennel and pay a tall fee so that it can be 'assessed'? (GWP breeder in Idaho pulls this crap...)

Anyhow, those are just a few things that would be jammin' through my brain housing unit if'n I were any of you. Have fun with the 'journey' 

[salmonchaser]

There are a number of events going on this summer, get out and watch some dogs work, that was excellent advice. I love them, we have two. They are not perfect but they love to hunt and do it well.
You haven't lived until your dog points a grizz, that gets exciting.
Good luck, perhaps we will bump into you chukar hunting.

[Elk whack master]

Thanks for the info on what to look for. This will be our first gsp. It needs to be a great family dog and I know its gonna be a crap shoot in temperament, they all say great temperament and raised with the family. How bad can their temperament if its on the worst side. Its all about training them,right  

[constructeur]

Temperament shouldn't be a crap shoot. There are dogs that will be hell on feathers, yet be cool as cucumbers in the house. No fighting with other dogs, No yarding on the wife and kids when they're on a walk, no howlin' like a devil when on a chain or in the crate.

A couple of the things mentioned above can be solved with heel training, or a bark collar (Garmin has integrated a bark collar into some of their stuff, nice for overly vocal dogs), but my point is if you can get a dog that doesn't need that from the get go your family unit will be better for it.

I'm not sure where you live but we have a NAVHDA test this coming weekend May15-17th, if you attend you'll see shorthairs from at least 4 different breeders. it's in Silver creek near Mayfield Lake.

Directions: http://www.pnwnavhda.org/

May 30-31st VHDF is having a test in the Elma area: http://www.vhdf.org/index.cfm/testing/calendar-of-events/ If you e-mail Barry Wild he'll tell you what is running  and where/when so you can make the most of your time

There are a number of AKC events coming up, (kind of hard to sort them out sometimes) many are held on the Koopman Farms property in Oakville, Wa. I just check all the AKC club sites (Puget sound visla, weim club, shorthair club, and compile a list of dates and go from there.)

GSPC of Wa: http://www.gspcofwa.org/

Visla club: http://www.pugetsoundvizsla.net/

you can find the rest if you're keen...

Or just e-mail a kennel and tell them you'd like to visit and watch some dogs move around. Take the whole crew, make a fun day of it. 101 out of 100 kids like to go look at puppies and dogs and pigeons and stuff (If they don't then they're either robots, aliens, or some sort of midget spies...trust me here)

Some folks above have suggested kennels that breed for trailing and I couldn't suggest buying a dog like that without watching the parents work to know what you're truly getting into. They are lightning quick, ALWAYS want to work, smart (devilish?!? and seem to pull energy from the thin air around them.

No, I'm not kidding.

 I have a dog from a trialing background and he seems to never be satiated with running. Today we ran across a group of Killdeer and he broke off and caught one mid flight. Yeah, that fast.

But he's also biddable, fun, loving and otherwise a complete joy to be around and one damn handsome mother...

Do what you can/afford to do/works with your schedule; my jist is to just throw an eyeball on some dogs before you spend $800-1200 and pick a family member that will be with you for the next 12+ years.

[AspenBud]

Some folks above have suggested kennels that breed for trailing and I couldn't suggest buying a dog like that without watching the parents work to know what you're truly getting into. They are lightning quick, ALWAYS want to work, smart (devilish?!? and seem to pull energy from the thin air around them.

No, I'm not kidding.

 I have a dog from a trialing background and he seems to never be satiated with running. Today we ran across a group of Killdeer and he broke off and caught one mid flight. Yeah, that fast.

But he's also biddable, fun, loving and otherwise a complete joy to be around and one damn handsome mother...

Do what you can/afford to do/works with your schedule; my jist is to just throw an eyeball on some dogs before you spend $800-1200 and pick a family member that will be with you for the next 12+ years.

I make this statement partly in bias, but if a person is serious about looking at field trial shorthairs for a hunting partner they would do well to look at English Pointers as well. 

[salmonchaser]

I'm just a recreational shorthair guy, had them around for 40 years. Simply love hunting with them, living with them. We were with out for a few years and now have two two year old bitches.
I've never owned one that wasn't incredibly fast and agile, with incredible endurance.
All have been great family dogs, my dog often lays on her bed with my granddaughter.
Smart, scary smart. They are not allowed on the furniture by the wife. If she goes to bed early, they wait about five minutes, jump up on the couch and put their heads in my lap.  They have taught themselves how to hunt together in spite of my efforts to screw them up. This fall my guests killed fifty or sixty ptarmigan, about that many, chukar, quite a few quail and well over 100 pheasant and a few ducks in three states. I insisted they learn to heel and recall with out exception and I'll correct a sloppy point. I usually let them tell me where the birds are instead of directing with hand signals they would rather ignore. My dog will honor the wife's dog, but not vice versa, we're working on it but self taught to this point.
Subject to training scars. My dog's first point and retrieve was a ptarmigan at 6 months. My brothers dog knocked her down and took the bird. She still won't retrieve with my brothers dog around.
Bold and courageous. I guide out in Bristol Bay. Twice last summer we got jumped by grizz in camp. She tore into both those bears because I was in danger, as I moved to safety she withdrew. It's rare the bears surprise us, unusual wind the culprit. Normally the dogs alert, we figure out what the bear is doing and get them out of camp. Under those circumstances she is never more then 10 feet away. Smart.
Have fun

[Forks]

Barry Wild---Hoodsport
Ron Loomis---Montana Bird Dogs Kalispell, MT

[RC3]

Barry Wild, that Forks mentioned has a litter ready to go this week and I couldn't say enough good things about him or his dogs.

[KFhunter]

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[Elk whack master]

Can you pm Barry's info please