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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2015, 09:40:18 AM »
The best thing this guy could have done is want a jury trial ...let them run the system to see what will come of it ..by saying you want a jury trial will definitely turn the table ...Never surrender to the law without a fight ...they want you to plead guilty , that's the cheapest way for them to convict you ! I can not take the side of anyone who is running with the wolf !  :twocents:

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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2015, 10:02:30 AM »
The best thing this guy could have done is want a jury trial ...let them run the system to see what will come of it ..by saying you want a jury trial will definitely turn the table ...Never surrender to the law without a fight ...they want you to plead guilty , that's the cheapest way for them to convict you ! I can not take the side of anyone who is running with the wolf !  :twocents:
i agree. I just don't like the idea of him representing him self unless he has a strong knowledge of the law. If he dosent a good prosecuter will tear him down quickly
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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2015, 10:57:21 AM »
The best thing this guy could have done is want a jury trial ...let them run the system to see what will come of it ..by saying you want a jury trial will definitely turn the table ...Never surrender to the law without a fight ...they want you to plead guilty , that's the cheapest way for them to convict you ! I can not take the side of anyone who is running with the wolf !  :twocents:


 I agree. Considering his location he may have a chance at jury nullification. Also....more people should demand jury trials. The court system has limited resources and if everyone made them spend the money for a trial, they would be forced to stop pestering us with petty things. They would be forced to focus in real crime. I agree make them work for it. If i was on his juslry he would not be convicted of anything for shooting a menace or keeping its dead shell.

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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2015, 11:07:16 AM »
If i was on his juslry he would not be convicted of anything for shooting a menace or keeping its dead shell.
I suspect that attitude would come out in voir dire and the potential juror would not be selected.
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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2015, 11:14:04 AM »
Representing ones self usually doesn't end well, especially with no prior legal training. Most wind up hiring an attorney in the end. Most notable case as of late that I remember was DC area sniper John Allen Mohammed. Again, he wound up turning it over to an attorney.

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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2015, 11:27:03 AM »
 I live  ten minutes from Rathdrum Mountain. My kids all go to Rathdrum schools. This guy does not have as many people on his side as he thinks. I have shot 1 wolf and want to shoot and trap as many as possible. They are just not easy to kill. It surprises me how dumb this one sounded. Fish & Game is fine with him shooting the wolf, everyone I know would have shot that wolf.  I think Fish & game would be good with him shooting the wolf without his dogs being threatened. I would be happy if he shot the wolf out of season and just followed the sss principle. I think most would agree with me. All he had to do was shut up about it and not brag to all his buddies. Even after that he still tried to buy the tag after the fact and he screwed up. I am one 100% pissed about the wolf situation but this guy is still being a dink and thats why I think he will be convicted.       

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Re: Wolf shooter turns down deal, Rathdrum man opts for jury trial
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2015, 05:31:39 AM »
If i was on his juslry he would not be convicted of anything for shooting a menace or keeping its dead shell.
I suspect that attitude would come out in voir dire and the potential juror would not be selected.

I dont know why you would suspect that. Considering that i already know the judges lie to jurors about thier right and abilty to judge the law as well as the defendants actions, and considering the prosecution would surely weed out anyone who wont co-operate with thier legal farce, i would appear vanilla, average, and un-interesting.   I would not wear my "live free or die" shirt and a confederate hat.   Maybe just dress like everyone else and play along. I have been in on a few jury pools that never made it to trial but i was in the selected group. Its not hard.   

 


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