Ruby Creek Wolf Transfered to Wolf Haven

[KFhunter]

I could care less now that I know this wolf has been spayed.

Only caveat would be that I as a taxpayer would not want to fund this thing beyond what it would take to just shoot it.


If a zoo wanted a bear that would otherwise be trapped and shot it's the same thing. 

[M_ray]

And you wonder why you get no support 

 Support?  I share info about what has happened in other states with wolves, and what those same wolves are now doing to WA. My hope is that people share the info from this site with others.

And I appreciate the info that you share and your passion against this fight, Not sure why you would think I don't. I just think the same idiotic statement "Move them to Seattle" over and over and over serves no purpose. I don't know why you would even argue that it does? Most of the time it hijacks your thread and starts a pissin match and gets everyone off the subject much the same as it has done with this thread. Is this the original reason for this post? I think not, but here we are once again and when others start the piling on you may not loose support but you sure loose the opportunity to gain anymore. Arguing and throwing out personal insults in my experience isn't the best way to gain friends.   

[pianoman9701]

Well, so much for that thread.

[nwwanderer]

Any one have a final state expenditure on those two wolves?

[CAMPMEAT]

" Move them to Seattle ", is a saying we use because, King, Pierce, Snohomish, Thurston and the other west side counties control 100% of our state. So saying, " Move them to Seattle", is a perfectly sane saying. We're sick and tired of the WETSIDE controlling every aspect of our lives. That's why I moved away and am moving out-of-state soon. 



.................and my statement isn't aimed at anybody on here. It's aimed at the liberal voters in those counties who know nuttin'.. and vote kneejerk because of commercials, printings and lies.

[M_ray]

" Move them to Seattle ", is a saying we use because, King, Pierce, Snohomish, Thurston and the other west side counties control 100% of our state. So saying, " Move them to Seattle", is a perfectly sane saying. We're sick and tired of the WETSIDE controlling every aspect of our lives. That's why I moved away and am moving out-of-state soon. 



.................and my statement isn't aimed at anybody on here. It's aimed at the liberal voters in those counties who know nuttin'.. and vote kneejerk because of commercials, printings and lies.

 What you guys forget is that there are many hunters on this forum that live in these communities that are not the liberal voters you dislike and we didnt decide on the plan to put them in your backyard in the first place. IMO that comment gets old and would be better served on a wolf lovers forum not on this one ... It's really hard to get behind you guys on the East side when you aren't behind us.

We aren't advocating for wolves in your neck of the woods or anywhere but with this comment you keep advocating them in ours ... when you start thinking about it, it sounds really hypocritical now don't it?  AND you loose credibility no matter how correct your argument or post might be? now think it from someone elses shoes for a change

[wolfbait]

Once again you guys can't get through one wolf post without the mention of moving wolves to Seattle, the Wet Side blah blah blah  and you wonder why a lot of your words go unnoticed or without much merit anymore? I have to say it on every wolf post .... I have yet to see a west side hunter say that they were in favor of wolves being re-introduced , translocated , or relocated anywhere in Wa East or west!!! But you guys won't be happy until every last hunter in this state suffers your same misery! Its an absurd comment and soon people are going to just quit reading these posts because of it ... I know I for one am already tired of it 😬

If you don't want people to reply to your posts M_ray, then perhaps you should state that in your post? Let us know that "you guys" means Villageidiot. It does kind of limit free speech, but I'm sure everyone will understand. 

And you wonder why you get no support 

 Support?  I share info about what has happened in other states with wolves, and what those same wolves are now doing to WA. My hope is that people share the info from this site with others.

And I appreciate the info that you share and your passion against this fight, Not sure why you would think I don't. I just think the same idiotic statement "Move them to Seattle" over and over and over serves no purpose. I don't know why you would even argue that it does? Most of the time it hijacks your thread and starts a pissin match and gets everyone off the subject much the same as it has done with this thread. Is this the original reason for this post? I think not, but here we are once again and when others start the piling on you may not loose support but you sure loose the opportunity to gain anymore. Arguing and throwing out personal insults in my experience isn't the best way to gain friends.   

Not sure what you are talking about?



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I know that is a hard statement for you to understand because its too reasonable and makes too much sense
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I try not to drop down into the ditch with the pro-wolf people anymore, it always gets me banned. and they 

 




 

[wolfbait]

M-Ray, don't use  when you really mean 

Man up and use an angry emoticon.  It's like an emotional girl who is too insecure to speak her mind so she uses LOL on her texts.












 

That totally makes sense    And you must feel so smart now

Lighten up Francis, you're getting this wrapped around the axle because the guy isn't making the argument the way you think he should.

Jonathan you clearly have no idea what you are saying ... this has nothing to do with a difference in an opinion ... I am not mad at the way Wolfbait thinks. If you actually read the thread instead of trying to stir the pot you would see that I made a response to villageidiot! None of this really has anything to do with you Wolfbait or Pianoman for that matter but for some reason you guys have decided to argue on behalf of villageidiot.

" Move them to Seattle ", is a saying we use because, King, Pierce, Snohomish, Thurston and the other west side counties control 100% of our state. So saying, " Move them to Seattle", is a perfectly sane saying. We're sick and tired of the WETSIDE controlling every aspect of our lives. That's why I moved away and am moving out-of-state soon. 



.................and my statement isn't aimed at anybody on here. It's aimed at the liberal voters in those counties who know nuttin'.. and vote kneejerk because of commercials, printings and lies.

 What you guys forget is that there are many hunters on this forum that live in these communities that are not the liberal voters you dislike and we didnt decide on the plan to put them in your backyard in the first place. IMO that comment gets old and would be better served on a wolf lovers forum not on this one ... It's really hard to get behind you guys on the East side when you aren't behind us.

We aren't advocating for wolves in your neck of the woods or anywhere but with this comment you keep advocating them in ours ... when you start thinking about it, it sounds really hypocritical now don't it?  AND you loose credibility no matter how correct your argument or post might be? now think it from someone elses shoes for a change

[wolfbait]

Ive seen wolves in the skagit and NWbowhunter has posted pics of a whole pack off the nooksack ON HERE that the WDFW did nothing about. It will be MUCH harder to document them here on the wet side than in E wa.

The comments about dropping them off in SeaTown isnt directed at hunters, but all the ignorant bunny huggers that think they are soft and cuddly. Since I grew up in the greater seattle area i can tell you first hand how many of these ignorant people will blos this issue off until it affects THEM! I rember when all the Yuppies started building houses on a mountain outside of Issaquah. There was a huge outrage when someones fluffy was dragged off by a courgar.... Any one want to guess which mountain this ignoramus built thier subdivision?

[4fletch]

Based on that picture i certainly wouldn't confirm them as wolves.  They look as much like huskys as wolves to me.

then they must be dogs chasing deer that need to be taken out

[M_ray]

Wolfbait, copy and paste all of that does nothing but prove my point and does nothing but make you look like your more interested in an argument and stirring of the pot??? Hard to hear your original message when you spend more time arguing on a post than you do backing up your original point!

And guys can say it's not directed at the hunters of the west side all they want but making the comment in the first place is a$$inine and hypocritical for the reasons I previously stated. Like I said doesn't help when trying to gain our support to back your efforts on that side of the state when the next word is going to be place them in our backyard??? I'm sure we can find liberal bunny huggers in Spokane too but we don't say "Plant them in Spokane"  Its a double standard to say the least and really not that hard to understand.  There are 100 other guys thinking the same thing in fact my PM box is overflowing at the moment with PM's from people saying that they wont post on any of these wolf threads anymore cause it turns into an argument ... If you want more backing you should be finding common ground rather than discrediting your point by arguing a silly comment that serves no purpose. 

[wolfbait]

Wolfbait, copy and paste all of that does nothing but prove my point and does nothing but make you look like your more interested in an argument and stirring of the pot??? Hard to hear your original message when you spend more time arguing on a post than you do backing up your original point!

And guys can say it's not directed at the hunters of the west side all they want but making the comment in the first place is a$$inine and hypocritical for the reasons I previously stated. Like I said doesn't help when trying to gain our support to back your efforts on that side of the state when the next word is going to be place them in our backyard??? I'm sure we can find liberal bunny huggers in Spokane too but we don't say "Plant them in Spokane"  Its a double standard to say the least and really not that hard to understand.  There are 100 other guys thinking the same thing in fact my PM box is overflowing at the moment with PM's from people saying that they wont post on any of these wolf threads anymore cause it turns into an argument ... If you want more backing you should be finding common ground rather than discrediting your point by arguing a silly comment that serves no purpose. 

Since you are so dead set against moving wolves to the west side maybe you would be interested in pushing WDFW into confirming some of the packs that are already there?

I think what most people (hunters, farmers, ranchers, rural folks etc.) want is wolf management/control, so far we haven't seen any. All we have seen is WDFW dragging wolf delisting out by refusing to confirm wolf packs/BP's. They have lied about wolf predation on livestock, and if they are lying about predation on livestock they sure aren't going to acknowledge the impact on the game herds, which we are seeing.

Maybe if WDFW moves a few BP's to the west side and then monitored them until they reached the quota, we could delist and any wolves that multiplied beyond the management level could then be euthanized or spayed and given to wolf haven. Of course you would still have the wolves that WDFW refuse to confirm in the beginning.

I'm trying to work with you here M_ray. Calm Down.

 "Like I said doesn't help when trying to gain our support to back your efforts on that side of the state when the next word is going to be place them in our backyard?"

I always thought we were all on the same side, I didn't realize we had a west side team and an east side team. Would seem to me, we would get more traction if your side joined our side and we had just one team? How big is your team?

Too bad we can't all be on the same team since the wolves will affect everyone.

[wolfbait]

Based on that picture i certainly wouldn't confirm them as wolves.  They look as much like huskys as wolves to me.

then they must be dogs chasing deer that need to be taken out

What would that many husky's be doing out in the middle of nowhere, usually people notice right away when their dog team runs away

[Special T]

The funny thing is that when you say they are dogs its time to stackem like cord wood  the response you normally get is ... Don't do that! they COULD be wolves.

[Buckhunter82]

M_ray

We understand theres a lot of hunters and a great people in general on the west side. The problem is that you live in a sewer and its over flowing across the entire state. We're knee deep in it. When we kick it back to where it came from, its nothing personal. Consider it friendly fire.