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Offline Clance54

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Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« on: February 15, 2015, 10:21:15 PM »
Hey ladies and gentlemen. I've got a question that is always revolving on any hunting forum. "Where the hell to hunt?" Excuse my language. You don't have to give me cords or heck I'm not asking for the general area. I just want to know what locations,that produce dogs consistently, look like. What's the elevation, the landscape, is the a draw with a crick in the bottom, do you call up or down to them, what time of day, are you full ghille dude or just some average camo. Basically I want to know the basics in a sense. I've hit the predator scene hard since the end of late archery and got a bobcat to stroll in on one outting, then on another I had a coyote yip back at me a time or two. I've hunted low in the valleys to somewhat high in the mountains and everywhere in between. Just getting frustrated and need to produce something to bring home. Ya know show some productivity mostly for me. Anyways thanks for anything you can lend me.


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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2015, 10:55:53 PM »
Where you want to hunt?  Snohomish? 




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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 03:43:42 PM »
 :)Nothing pulls dogs consistently, :chuckle: every stand is different. calling up or down both work, it is not just calling it is seeing, when you can shoot. all elevations work.
I hunted for years with folks who "knew" what they were doing, they called areas "that looked like coyotes". IT NEVER WORKED. They walked in to a site, sat and called for 15 minutes, then left.
I started hunting like Elk, locate animals, locate sign, sneak (SNEAK) and call same. IF THERE IS NO SIGN THERE IS NO COYOTES. Talk to folks, when you look at where to call try to determine if you can see them respond, from your calling site.
Calling if you cannot kill is stupid. Walk get away from the road.
I do not think camo matters much, dull colors,brush screens, do not move, face mask and gloves might be the best.
Leave your gun home and call just to see if you can see them come, call places you are not allowed to shoot, so you can watch them. 
All day long works depending on the site. For the record this is much harder than deer or elk hunting and much more rewarding. Other than the meat.
Try calling farms.
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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 08:03:38 PM »
Bonfire pretty much hit it on the head. There are no magic tricks to calling coyotes.  You need to get into a stand without spooking them, pick your stand so when they come in you don't spook them by smell or sight, sit still, only your head should be moving ever so slowly, don't fiddle with the gun or scope, play with the remote, scan with your binocs or scope, change position, everything should be in position before you turn on the call or blow your call. Rifle up on sticks nearly ready to shoot.

Scouting goes a long way, if there is sign there are coyotes,  I spend a lot more time driving around with my GPS w/public land chip, Public lands maps and Gazatteer, getting out and walking some lands that look good and marking them for future or even the next day.  Pretty soon you can look at a piece of land and see good stand, have an idea where the coyote will come from, it also might be days before the wind is right to hunt that stand.

Just about any call will call in a coyote if you can make it sound like an easy meal,  volume is overrated, scent blockers are next to useless(you can't fool a coyotes nose), move slowly when approaching a stand and walk around a hill not over it or at least keep from skylining yourself.

There are a lot of guys out there educating coyotes and they learn fast.  This isn't near as easy as it looks on the DVD's.

The day you call in a coyote and he jumps up on the log next to you,  sticks his head up over the snow drift between your feet, jumps over your partners legs, jumps up in a thorn bush and rips your e-caller down, nearly sticks his head in the speaker horn, or sits down and stares up a your decoy three feet in front of his nose, make all the time and effort you've put in priceless.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 08:44:07 PM »
My buddy and I spent all day yesterday hunting yotes around Dodson and Winchester Wasteway.  It was a beautiful day winds were very light and temps touched 60 degrees.   We did our best to sneak, not move on a stand, and find high ground to hunt areas we could actually shoot yotes.  And we saw one yote all day long and it was on our hike back to the truck.  And he bolted with no opportunity. 
I won't  go back.  The yotes just didn't respond to our mouth calls.  We ordered a foxpro spitfire with decoy attachment.  We're sick of getting skunkEd too.
I suspect those are some smart yotes.  Everywhere we hiked we saw boot prints. 
Good luck, and don't worry, you're not the only one frustrated.

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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 09:31:07 PM »
Just a couple weeks ago I called one in and shot it within hearing distance of the Dodson Bridge over the Win. Wasteway.  I guess I got the last one.  Did you find any fresh scat, tracks, what were they eating.

You need to find areas that there are no boot prints, they are there.  I've also seen coyote come to the very edge of the cover and without exposing themselves search every inch of the hillsides for something that isn't right and slink back in. The desert wildlife area has a lot of coyotes but they get hunted hard, by this time of the year ALL the dumb ones are gone.
Getting one to come out in the open this time of the year can be a real challenge.  Just sit out there one night for a couple of hours and you will hear coyotes in every direction.

The coyote that stuck his head over the snow bank and the one that jumped over my partners legs were within walking distance of where you were and they were in Jan and Feb. a few years back.

The one in my avatar was taken within a block of the Frenchman Hills bridge on Dodson

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Just walking around and randomly calling this late in the season can be very difficult, now is the time to have specific stands that you can get into without spooking/disturbing the area, it is a big plus.  You can still make big loops through the area but have specific stands that you can get to without polluting the area you want to call. Finding small public land near large blocks of private that others would bypass can be very productive.

Last month I bumped this guy checking out some new area, made a stand but nothing, came back the next day a better stand that I found the day before and a different sound and killed him at 20 yards.  He's an old dog.

« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 08:52:08 AM by AWS »
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 09:41:07 PM »
KFhunterI've been hunting them from snohomish all the way to outside gold bar. I'm about to go higher till boot tracks disappear. Hey thanks for the intell everyone. I guess I thought it would be easier then thought. But I'm dedicated to the woods so I'll be patient and keep trying it while not educating yotes if possible.


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Re: Terrain, landscape, area, a spot I don't care.
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 08:03:35 PM »
Like AWS said wait for the wind to be right. Of its not blowing in the right direction for the stand,then wait u til it is. No sense in trying a stand of everything isn't right. Remember,these are hunters that half to to stay alive and not for the sport of it. :tup:
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