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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #375 on: March 05, 2015, 11:23:30 AM »
Here's the link to the story and a few quotes!

http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/yhr/thursday/2966638-8/first-outing-in-new-jeep-in-hills-outside

“This has turned this into a bad movie,” Brandt said Tuesday. “I’m just an old guy who bought a new Jeep, had it for two days, took it out for what was going to be a short drive, and got stuck.”


The Jeep is perched on a 38 percent grade. Kujala deemed the terrain too soft for rescue, Brandt said.


Brandt said he’s now faced with the only options Kujala gave him — paying about $1,000 to hire a professional truck crew to rescue the Jeep, presumably once the ground hardens, or hire a commercial helicopter to airlift it out.


The road ended there, but instead of back-tracking out, Brandt urged the new Jeep forward in the hope of circling around and hooking up the Forest Service road.


Brandt expresses deep regret for the damaged hillside and the entire episode. He’s exploring his options — carefully.  “I don’t want to get law enforcement people any more worked up than they already are,” he said
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #376 on: March 05, 2015, 11:36:15 AM »
Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   :o

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off  :sry:


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.




The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #377 on: March 05, 2015, 11:37:16 AM »
Huh, did not see that coming.  Poor old guy, I hope it all works out for him. 

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #378 on: March 05, 2015, 11:45:33 AM »
So, the forest service locked the gate after he got stuck.  Too bad they didn't have the gate shut and locked starting about December 1st. :twocents:
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #379 on: March 05, 2015, 11:51:23 AM »
Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   :o

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off  :sry:


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.




The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

Thanks for helping me see why this is in deer hunting!

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #380 on: March 05, 2015, 11:52:05 AM »
So, the forest service locked the gate after he got stuck.  Too bad they didn't have the gate shut and locked starting about December 1st. :twocents:



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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #381 on: March 05, 2015, 12:01:47 PM »
:yike:

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #382 on: March 05, 2015, 12:12:24 PM »
Here's the link to the story and a few quotes!

http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/yhr/thursday/2966638-8/first-outing-in-new-jeep-in-hills-outside

“This has turned this into a bad movie,” Brandt said Tuesday. “I’m just an old guy who bought a new Jeep, had it for two days, took it out for what was going to be a short drive, and got stuck.”


The Jeep is perched on a 38 percent grade. Kujala deemed the terrain too soft for rescue, Brandt said.


Brandt said he’s now faced with the only options Kujala gave him — paying about $1,000 to hire a professional truck crew to rescue the Jeep, presumably once the ground hardens, or hire a commercial helicopter to airlift it out.


The road ended there, but instead of back-tracking out, Brandt urged the new Jeep forward in the hope of circling around and hooking up the Forest Service road.


Brandt expresses deep regret for the damaged hillside and the entire episode. He’s exploring his options — carefully.  “I don’t want to get law enforcement people any more worked up than they already are,” he said


I'm calling the BS on this statement. I've gone out for short drives......NONE LIKE THAT. So....I will include a picture to show my sympathy.


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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #383 on: March 05, 2015, 12:17:32 PM »
Somebody has small hands  :chuckle:
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #384 on: March 05, 2015, 12:24:05 PM »
Here's the link to the story and a few quotes!

http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/yhr/thursday/2966638-8/first-outing-in-new-jeep-in-hills-outside

“This has turned this into a bad movie,” Brandt said Tuesday. “I’m just an old guy who bought a new Jeep, had it for two days, took it out for what was going to be a short drive, and got stuck.”


The Jeep is perched on a 38 percent grade. Kujala deemed the terrain too soft for rescue, Brandt said.


Brandt said he’s now faced with the only options Kujala gave him — paying about $1,000 to hire a professional truck crew to rescue the Jeep, presumably once the ground hardens, or hire a commercial helicopter to airlift it out.


The road ended there, but instead of back-tracking out, Brandt urged the new Jeep forward in the hope of circling around and hooking up the Forest Service road.


Brandt expresses deep regret for the damaged hillside and the entire episode. He’s exploring his options — carefully.  “I don’t want to get law enforcement people any more worked up than they already are,” he said


I'm calling the BS on this statement. I've gone out for short drives......NONE LIKE THAT. So....I will include a picture to show my sympathy.

Try reading the statement again.  "What was GOING to be a short drive"  Meaning things didn't go according to plan. 


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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #385 on: March 05, 2015, 12:34:10 PM »
Oh I read the statement. A short drive that was "going to be" anything that took him right past a (should have been locked) gate and just about straight uphill? Please. He is playing the oh poor me and my new toy got stuck on a little drive. Suck it up buddy. If you are old enough to describe yourself as such you are old enough to take your lumps and know where you are offroading. Notice I used the term offroading....not a short drive.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #386 on: March 05, 2015, 12:34:49 PM »
let me start by saying the guy is an idiot should not have been there but i find the mentality of bashing on this thread ridiculous. for those who have NEVER done anything wrong i guess its justified but i dont believe any of us can say that. I believe things like this wouldnt happen if it werent for us loosing all the places to do this very thing. as for scaring away all the wild life in their winter range get over it if your that worried about it you damn well better not be in there looking for sheds yourself. i would be willing to bet a year to 2 years you wont even tell he was there with no restoration. i dont think this is as big of an issue as some are making it out to be. just get a dang dozer up there get him out fine him and move on. those of your that think a dozer couldnt do it should come take a look at where they made the natural gas lines in washington and oregon. that stuff is staight up and down and a dozer with a winch line to an excavator is how it was done sometimes multiple dozers, (granted people dont have the testicular fortitude than the men who built this country did years ago!)
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #387 on: March 05, 2015, 12:37:11 PM »
Where is the fun in that?   :chuckle:

We could all just ignore it and stick to working?  :chuckle: Yeah, that ain't happening!

I bet you are right about the dozer....get someone to run it that has a light touch and they could probably get 'er out quick.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #388 on: March 05, 2015, 12:41:38 PM »
if we spent half the time worrying about this incident and making as big of a deal about it as we do our politics our state wouldnt be in the situation it is but yet here we are

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #389 on: March 05, 2015, 12:54:48 PM »
"What was GOING to be a short drive" 
As was Gilligan going on a 3 hour cruise?
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