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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #555 on: March 06, 2015, 08:25:57 PM »
I've been down there and going up isn't a great option and going down is worse. There might be a way on the south side of the ridge but it looks like it gets steeper then where he is sitting, and already has been, before you get to the bottom.

Can't figure the orchard owner getting too worked up about egressing through the land. Granted, it is private property, but I say screw that. If the owner happens to be that petty and not grant permission for the extraction (though I would probably deny if it were my property and if asked for for access due to liability), take your fine or trespass ticket and get on with your life.   Personally, I don't really care about landowner "rights", if it were my land maybe I would but it's not so I don't really care. I don't know him (her, them?) so am not really worried if I were to trespass except as it may impact my other liberties. If the repercussions are more than my benefit,  I would not trespass and the inverse is true as well in this situation.

Not sure  where this $10k for the helicopter keeps popping up. We used to rent a copter that would be real close, if not capable, to getting this rig out. We would do an all day charter (8 flying hours) and it cost not much more than $10k.

We use a heli crane that charge a 10k minimum.  I stated thi earlier so I think that's where it's coming from. 
There's a lot of insurance involved compared to charter type flights

Maybe Temsco is AK operated differently, which is likely with it being in AK, but we lifted boats, pallets of fish food, 48'x3' steel net pen walkways, bundles of lumber, fuel drums, etc. There was more than one load that the helicopter just could not lift. There were many others where we had to wait until the helicopter was getting light on fuel before we could lift it. We paid by the hour and chartered it anywhere from 4-12 hours annually. It broke down to about $31 per minute and I made sure the crew knew that if they were screwing off I was gonna start taking that $31/minute out of their wages😄
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #556 on: March 06, 2015, 08:32:56 PM »
Amazing how many say they could drive it right out of there......but have not actually viewed where it's at in person.  Easy to be a master jeeper sittin behind a keyboard.

It is not going to happen by going uphill without assistance.

There is always a possibility that going downhill and to the south it could be done.....IF you have a serious death wish. This route would be a combination of steep downhill & sidehill at the same time. Think about it, why did the dude turn around if continuing to go down would have been easier.

It's just a run of the mill Jeep, not worth risking a life for IMO.
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #557 on: March 06, 2015, 09:15:26 PM »
I've been down there and going up isn't a great option and going down is worse. There might be a way on the south side of the ridge but it looks like it gets steeper then where he is sitting, and already has been, before you get to the bottom.

Can't figure the orchard owner getting too worked up about egressing through the land. Granted, it is private property, but I say screw that. If the owner happens to be that petty and not grant permission for the extraction (though I would probably deny if it were my property and if asked for for access due to liability), take your fine or trespass ticket and get on with your life.   Personally, I don't really care about landowner "rights", if it were my land maybe I would but it's not so I don't really care. I don't know him (her, them?) so am not really worried if I were to trespass except as it may impact my other liberties. If the repercussions are more than my benefit,  I would not trespass and the inverse is true as well in this situation.

Not sure  where this $10k for the helicopter keeps popping up. We used to rent a copter that would be real close, if not capable, to getting this rig out. We would do an all day charter (8 flying hours) and it cost not much more than $10k.

We use a heli crane that charge a 10k minimum.  I stated thi earlier so I think that's where it's coming from. 
There's a lot of insurance involved compared to charter type flights

Maybe Temsco is AK operated differently, which is likely with it being in AK, but we lifted boats, pallets of fish food, 48'x3' steel net pen walkways, bundles of lumber, fuel drums, etc. There was more than one load that the helicopter just could not lift. There were many others where we had to wait until the helicopter was getting light on fuel before we could lift it. We paid by the hour and chartered it anywhere from 4-12 hours annually. It broke down to about $31 per minute and I made sure the crew knew that if they were screwing off I was gonna start taking that $31/minute out of their wages😄

The 10k was for the first 4 hours.  Can't remember what it was after that. We never exceeded it. 

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #558 on: March 06, 2015, 09:58:13 PM »
Could have stripped the jeep and hiked it out by now.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #559 on: March 06, 2015, 09:58:29 PM »
He even had his kid with him... I hardcore jeeped for 10 years and I would never done that......

The dude is 61. How old is his kid?

And what he did is softcore Jeeping.   :tup:



Might of been his granddaughter then. He had very nice penmanship by the way...

Softcore jeeping that would of scared me to death....... :tup:
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #560 on: March 06, 2015, 10:41:44 PM »
Don't you think he'd make it out if he chained up all 4 with some big old V-bar chains all the way around?

Not as much fun as a helicopter or trespassing, but.....
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #561 on: March 06, 2015, 10:48:19 PM »
Don't you think he'd make it out if he chained up all 4 with some big old V-bar chains all the way around?

Not as much fun as a helicopter or trespassing, but.....
I do.  I look at the pictures and what little tread he has is packed and leaving him basically running slicks.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #562 on: March 06, 2015, 11:01:09 PM »
Drive by that orchard look up and imagine that long ride down to its final resting place. I wouldn't want to be a passenger in that.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #563 on: March 06, 2015, 11:23:18 PM »
How much cable would you need on a skidder winch to reach him from the top?  I've seen them winch some fully loaded log trucks up some real nasty stuff. If there is a straight line you'd think a Jeep would be child's play no matter how steep and slippery it is :dunno:
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #564 on: March 06, 2015, 11:25:08 PM »
Don't you think he'd make it out if he chained up all 4 with some big old V-bar chains all the way around?

Not as much fun as a helicopter or trespassing, but.....

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #565 on: March 06, 2015, 11:32:37 PM »
He is a lot closer to the orchard than back up to the top. A couple people went down to visit it today. After a few more weeks the foot path will flatten all the tire tracks.

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #566 on: March 07, 2015, 12:02:53 AM »
He is a lot closer to the orchard than back up to the top.

Really!!

I had to go back to Nock Nock's Reply #165 on: March 02, 2015, 08:02:45 PM and read it again.  Guess I read it backward the first time :chuckle:  Now it's making more sense, Doh :P

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #567 on: March 07, 2015, 05:46:39 AM »
 :chuckle:

I bet someone stole his new rig rallied it till it stopped going and already had his info in the car.  Left a funny note with his cell number and walked home. 

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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #568 on: March 07, 2015, 08:17:18 AM »
Keep this pace and this thread will be creeping up on bigfoot!
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Re: Idiot In The Entiat!
« Reply #569 on: March 07, 2015, 10:41:56 AM »
How much cable would you need on a skidder winch to reach him from the top?  I've seen them winch some fully loaded log trucks up some real nasty stuff. If there is a straight line you'd think a Jeep would be child's play no matter how steep and slippery it is :dunno:

That's exactly what I'm saying.  With a Wrangler, you wouldn't even need anybody to be IN the car either, just put it in neutral and it'll roll forever.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

 


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