What do you all think of this?

[Dan-o]

Wow.....   I am typically very pro-LEO, but I think this officer was FLAT WRONG.

I see no evidence that the guy was "out looking for a confrontation."  He's on an Eagle scout walk in the country with his son.   Having a camera......   I would.

He's not walking through downtown Houston;   He's walking down a country road.    I've walked down many country roads with a long gun or shotgun on my way to/from hunts.  And I wasn't out looking for trouble.

That cop should be severely reprimanded with time off at a minimum, if not fired.
(I am AMAZED that more on this site don't feel that way.)


Having said that, if LEO approaches me when armed, I'll do the most expedient disarm I can to make the LEO know that I am no threat.......    I just think the guy's 2A rights were stolen.   

[TommyH]

Wow.....   I am typically very pro-LEO, but I think this officer was FLAT WRONG.

I see no evidence that the guy was "out looking for a confrontation."  He's on an Eagle scout walk in the country with his son.   Having a camera......   I would.

He's not walking through downtown Houston;   He's walking down a country road.    I've walked down many country roads with a long gun or shotgun on my way to/from hunts.  And I wasn't out looking for trouble.

That cop should be severely reprimanded with time off at a minimum, if not fired.
(I am AMAZED that more on this site don't feel that way.)


Having said that, if LEO approaches me when armed, I'll do the most expedient disarm I can to make the LEO know that I am no threat.......    I just think the guy's 2A rights were stolen.   

Agreed

[Jarhead Chase]

I am very supportive of LEO. Anyone who knows me in real life can attest to that. I'm sorry to say that at the 18 second mark when the LEO walks up to him and starts handling his AR he is way out of line. Possession of a firearm is not legal grounds (maybe LittleJohn can back me up on this one) to be suspected of a crime or detained.

I don't care if the guy was looking for a police "gotcha" video. As long as he wasn't breaking any laws there shouldn't have been a confrontation.

[LittleJohn]

LEO did not handle situation well at all. Doesn't really mater if the guy was trying to get on Youtube or not. Its pretty common to run into people that are trying to test your knowledge or the law and your patience. LEO should and could have handled it differently.

Possession of a firearm is not grounds to be suspected of a crime or detained.

Depending on the information dispatch gave to the LEO from the complainant.

[Bean Counter]

THIS is a much better interaction on the part of both the citizens and the cops. I suspect this LEO is on his way to becoming a captain or chief some day 

http://youtu.be/sj9wahCTz08

[Bean Counter]

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Klamath Falls Police, Open Carry a MP5 and a Handgun.

[Jarhead Chase]

Thanks LittleJohn for the backup. As a rule you guys do a great job. Keep up the good work, and thanks for putting yourselves on the line for us. 

[bearhunter99]

While I completely agree that the officer handled this VERY poorly I will comment on a couple of things. 

The first being we do not know the nature of  the complaint that was called in.  The officer could have been very on edge due to the information that was given to him.  I will say that regardless of the nature of the complaint the officer never should have walked up and started looking at the guy's gun.  He should have kept a little distance and explained the situation and asked the guy to place the rifle on the ground.

That being said I am a very staunch supporter of our 2A rights but I am also aware of the political climate we live in.  If I am pulled over the first thing I tell the officer is that I have a CWP and there is a loaded firearm in my jockey box or on my side.  I also am very careful when I run into an officer in the field to make sure there is no reason for the officer to feel he needs to be  wary of me.  We have 2A rights but those are constantly under a barrage and I don't feel the need to create situations that will lead to confrontation that could be construed in favor of the gun ban supporters.  When an officer asks "why do you have this?" just answer truthfully.  Saying "because I can" is just going to escalate a situation regardless of where you are.  That statement gets used all too often and doesn't help the cause in my opinion.

[Bean Counter]

I doubt he was responding to a call. In the video I posted you'll note two  patrol cars pull up. I certainly would want back up before responding to an armed individual.

[bearhunter99]

I doubt he was responding to a call. In the video I posted you'll note two  patrol cars pull up. I certainly would want back up before responding to an armed individual.

I was just going off the videos, both officers stated that they had received a complaint.  I was under the impression that the officer stopped him for that reason, not just because he was walking down the road with a gun.

[Curly]

I wonder how it would have gone if instead of the scary black gun, he was carrying say a winchester model 94?

[WAPatriot]

Cops should be fired, arrested and placed in prison.

[Bean Counter]

I doubt he was responding to a call. In the video I posted you'll note two  patrol cars pull up. I certainly would want back up before responding to an armed individual.

I was just going off the videos, both officers stated that they had received a complaint.  I was under the impression that the officer stopped him for that reason, not just because he was walking down the road with a gun.

Oh I thought you were talking about the first video 

[csaaphill]

This is old this happened within months of Newtown. That said the cop was in the wrong should never of even tryed to grab the guys gun and if he would of persued it further the guy would of been well within his rights for self defence! I have seen latley that cops who get shot during a no knock raid the guy they targeted got off because a jury found them not guilty because for all he knew was that he was protecting his house against robbers!
I think the cop is nothing but a bully and anti gunner in disguise and needs to learn manners of rights mean.
Also from what I hear the guy lost his case which with everything latly Not surprised but again this was just after Newtown so.........

[bowbuild]

I did not read every response, but I think the COPS will walk on this because there was a "complaint" by a citzen, therefore the officer did respond, and we don't know what the caller said. If he rolled up on his own think it would be a lot different story.

A officer responding to a call to a house does not need a warrant if he feels a crime is being commited abuse, life threatening.....and I think this is how they will spin it.