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With this last proposed ammo ban, anyone think the ATF has a purpose?
Quote from: longrangehunter338 on March 08, 2015, 09:51:17 PMWith this last proposed ammo ban, anyone think the ATF has a purpose?The ATF was originally set up to collect taxes from booze, smokes, and guns. My question is. when and who gave the ATF law enforcement powers?
Eric Holder should be brought up on murder charges for allowing guns to be bought and sent over the Mexican border that caused the death of a US Border Patrol Agent. He knew those guns where going south and even before the death of the US Border Patrol Agent. The ATF allowed it, knowingly.
Quote from: GrainfedMuley on March 08, 2015, 11:45:15 PMEric Holder should be brought up on murder charges for allowing guns to be bought and sent over the Mexican border that caused the death of a US Border Patrol Agent. He knew those guns where going south and even before the death of the US Border Patrol Agent. The ATF allowed it, knowingly.The ATF operation began under the Bush Administration. Not that it makes a difference.
For those of us that have had several hundred rounds of both kinds of ammo for 20 plus years better keep in the ammo box unless it is a life or death deal to defend yourself.
you obviously don't shoot a big enough gun. 300gr rn out of my 338 won't even know the plate was there.
Quote from: GrainfedMuley on March 09, 2015, 11:29:48 PM as far as armor piercing goes, just about anything that we hunt with will far outperform any "green tip" ammo, that's where things get a little sketchy...
Quote from: huntinguy on March 10, 2015, 08:41:31 AMyou obviously don't shoot a big enough gun. 300gr rn out of my 338 won't even know the plate was there. You are right. I do not shoot that big of a gun because there is no elephants in this state. .308 does all the killin I need to do and I never try to kill an animal no more than 300 yards out. I never take a 1/4 mile shot no matter how big the gun is........
Quote from: GrainfedMuley on March 10, 2015, 11:18:40 PMQuote from: huntinguy on March 10, 2015, 08:41:31 AMyou obviously don't shoot a big enough gun. 300gr rn out of my 338 won't even know the plate was there. You are right. I do not shoot that big of a gun because there is no elephants in this state. .308 does all the killin I need to do and I never try to kill an animal no more than 300 yards out. I never take a 1/4 mile shot no matter how big the gun is........My hunting load is 210gr. I have taken deer at 20 feet and elk at 250 yards. You would be surprised at how little meat damage the big bullet does. Far Far less than a 270, 243 or a 308 all of which I have taken animals with.