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Offline RadSav

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Re: The little things
« Reply #105 on: April 17, 2015, 04:49:20 PM »
I will try to work on the helical topic shortly after getting back from turkey hunting.  CL has been having a rough time finding Toms.  We will be home either way Saturday night.  So probably Sunday or Monday.
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Re: The little things
« Reply #106 on: April 30, 2015, 09:03:26 PM »
Hey Rad do you ever experiment with offsetting your vanes? Any spin or other gains from doing this?

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Re: The little things
« Reply #107 on: May 01, 2015, 05:37:27 PM »
Perhaps I'm not understanding the question :dunno:  Helical vanes are offset vanes.  They just follow the contour of the shaft rather than trying to put a square peg in a round hole.  No molded spin kicker, flap or gimmick is going to give you what a well fletched full helical vane will.
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Re: The little things
« Reply #108 on: May 01, 2015, 05:42:41 PM »
Sorry I meant more like this

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Re: The little things
« Reply #109 on: May 01, 2015, 05:56:20 PM »
That would hurt my brain :yike:


I did shoot these for a lot of years..
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Re: The little things
« Reply #110 on: May 01, 2015, 07:15:32 PM »
Sorry I meant more like this
I don't see the benefit? Looks like it was fletched wrong! :twocents:

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Re: The little things
« Reply #111 on: May 01, 2015, 09:02:22 PM »
Sorry I meant more like this
I don't see the benefit? Looks like it was fletched wrong! :twocents:

Yeah, I can not fathom a benefit either.  I will think on it a bit, but at first glace the only thing I see are negatives.
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Re: The little things
« Reply #112 on: May 02, 2015, 07:24:56 AM »
Looks like a D-rock fletch job.

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Re: The little things
« Reply #113 on: May 02, 2015, 01:48:22 PM »
Sorry I meant more like this
I don't see the benefit? Looks like it was fletched wrong! :twocents:
Yeah, I can not fathom a benefit either.  I will think on it a bit, but at first glace the only thing I see are negatives.

Thought about it last night and through a restless nights sleep.  I can not think of a single thing that fletching in such a way would benefit.  There are three rather strong reasons not to fletch in such a way - Increased wind drift, reduced force compression and staggered rotational force.  IMO the biggest advantage of the Blazer vane is the reduction of wind drift.  Why would a person want to mess that up with fletching that looks like the arrowsmith was on crack?

Back 20 or 25 years ago we shot over draws and TM Hunter rests.  Back then having your arrow fall off the rest was a definite concern.  Many of us would fletch with the 4" vanes a little further from the nock so the cock vane would sit between the prongs making sure it would stay put before we started to draw.  That would be the only thing I could think of as a benefit.  Though I doubt a 2" Blazer would ever sit far enough forward to accomplish that.  Plus, very few people ever shoot the TM Hunter and overdraws in the field any longer.

So often seamheads try to fix things that aren't broken in an attempt to find a solution to a problem no one knew existed.  In the process they find discontent in everything and then wonder why they no longer enjoy their sport the way they did in the past.  I think that fletching might be a warning sign :chuckle:
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Re: The little things
« Reply #114 on: May 02, 2015, 02:35:14 PM »
Sorry I meant more like this
I don't see the benefit? Looks like it was fletched wrong! :twocents:

Yeah, I can not fathom a benefit either.  I will think on it a bit, but at first glace the only thing I see are negatives.

I think I saw one of the guys on Tv fletch up arrows like this....can't remember exactly what show but I think it was jim burnsworth

Can't remember what the reason was

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Re: The little things
« Reply #115 on: May 02, 2015, 04:16:03 PM »
Actually that is where I got the hair brained idea from. Apparently it's supposed to be more stable out at longer distances & a bit more spin   

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Re: The little things
« Reply #116 on: May 02, 2015, 04:32:31 PM »
There is no benefit that i could see to staggered vanes like that... but no real noticeable con either.. except looking like a doof. Side wind force is exactly the same as all 3 aligned.

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Re: The little things
« Reply #117 on: May 08, 2015, 04:47:29 PM »
Tag. Waiting for more!
Old enough to know better.
Young enough to go for it.

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Re: The little things
« Reply #118 on: May 08, 2015, 04:52:25 PM »
Tag. Waiting for more!

Sorry it has been taking so long.  Work, wife's b-day and "fun with flatulence" have been clouding my thoughts. :chuckle:  I will really try to get something more going very soon. 

Some good news on the broadhead front though.  We will start shipping four blade Madman broadheads tomorrow.  Plus I just got the first prototype run of the DelMastro and Vandyke 125 grain broadheads.  Look very good!  I think we will be able to start shipping those by July 1st.  I think D-Rock will have some for final testing and review by Tuesday!  Sure been exciting around here.
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Re: The little things
« Reply #119 on: May 09, 2015, 11:49:54 AM »
Tag. Waiting for more!

Sorry it has been taking so long.  Work, wife's b-day and "fun with flatulence" have been clouding my thoughts. :chuckle:  I will really try to get something more going very soon. 

Some good news on the broadhead front though.  We will start shipping four blade Madman broadheads tomorrow.  Plus I just got the first prototype run of the DelMastro and Vandyke 125 grain broadheads.  Look very good!  I think we will be able to start shipping those by July 1st.  I think D-Rock will have some for final testing and review by Tuesday!  Sure been exciting around here.
it's to bad I'm not going to make it down that way as planned court date moved again now June 30th.  Pretty exited to one of these broadheads thru a world class spike elk come September.

 


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