TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH

[billythekidrock]

Total BS and yes it is a couple brothers out of Wenatchee.  Nothing is going to happen to them, and WDFW the liberal courts or anyone else in this state is going to make them stop.  What RMEF chapter had their banquet at a casino?  I will continue to voice my opinion's and suggestions how to stop this, but I know they will do nothing about it.  Show me one instance where this state has done anything to stop or reduce this Indian Poaching? 

I think it is all about pushing boundaries with them. They see how much they can get away with. Just like Johnson and his bunch with the whale.

[kingsalmonkllr77]

We as hunters and fisherman fund these @ssholes to do what they do and we do nothing about it.  When the war was going on we forced them onto reservations and ran their leaders into canada,  we had that much power then and there wasn't even half as many of us at that time involved.  It is time to stand up against this bull%hit, put a permanent stop to it, and let the powers to be know that this will never be acceptable again.  I am sick and tired of paying for all the licenses(Every one of them available over the counter) and having no say in what goes on with our wild game and fish.  The treaty should be wrinkled up and the natives should be forced to work for a living like we do and if they would like to hunt or fish they can spend the same money we do.  No more casino's for free, no more 5 dollar a year commercial crab licenses, no more free boats, nets, housing, ect.  They say we as taxpayers pay for it and the way I see it we need to make changes NOW!!!  We can change this if we try.  Sorry I'm just a little T'd off about this and see a shortage of animals and fish in the near future.

[philpac33]

my uncle was at the house today to watch football and told me that he and my cousin witnessed 4 indians(muckleshoots) shoot a spike and a cow in grays harbor a couple weeks ago. they knew it wasn't legal, even for them, so they contacted fish and wildlife. first warden showed up within a half hour followed by 3 others shortly thereafter. found them pulling the cow up the hillside and ran their ids. uncle informed the wardens of the bull they shot also and they were able to find blood but lost the trail when it went into the timber. ended up arresting all 4 indians. uncle said something about getting a reward of some bonus preferential points for upcoming permit draws but he said the real reward was just seeing those (expletives) getting hauled off. too bad it came at the cost of two more elk that didn't need to get shot. not sure of the outcome but they better not get off! and don't even get me started about the nets....

[Slider]

I believe they were having a (Seattle Chapter) RMEF Banquet at the Snoqualmie Casino. We all wrote a letter to the RMEF and refused to attend it!!! We received letters back from the Foundation saying how much money they were going to save and other RMEF Banquets are held at Casinos!!!   

[Wenatcheejay]

Don't get you started on the nets? I think that is the one that my finally tip the scales. The Coasties don't give a rip about the Clockum. But, they do care about their Salmon. I like the idea that when they net the Kings they say that "most" of the "wild" ones will be returned unharmed. Imagine if I told a Game Warden that "most", "MOST" of the wild salmon that I catch I release unharmed. I am sure that would go over real well.

Remember, NETS 700 feet long dragging the Brewster Pools, after they are done feel free to drop in your single line for anything that is left.  

[NoBark]

I think we lost a great opportunity when the casino's went in. We should have had them trade their hunting and fishing lifestyle/subsistance for the much more lucritive
casino lifestyle....

[phishisgroovin]

i am directly related to General george winfield Scott, even sport his fine name as my middle name.
I want to exercise my indian hunting rights for un needed kills like this  remember the trail of tears?

[WDFW-SUX]

I think we lost a great opportunity when the casino's went in. We should have had them trade their hunting and fishing lifestyle/subsistance for the much more lucritive
casino lifestyle....

Its not too late............

[dbllunger]

Regarding the neting and letting live fish go.  I went to their meetings when they were explaining what they were doing and why.  The Colville's own data showed a 50% kill rate on all fish caught regardless of "Native" or "Hatchery".   Your read that correct they were killing half of the fish caught, and the whole purpose of this was to determine if it was a viable way to catch and sort out hatchery and release wild.  The same results happened with their tangle nets.  So with that info any bets on weather they net or not anyway.  They were catching 50 fish a set with the 700+ foot sein net in the Columbia.  They caught 200 a set with a 70 foot net just up river in the Okanogan where sport fisherman can not fish.  When that was pointed out, and the fact that there really would be no need to net the Columbia Joe's comment was "Well it has to do with our treaty rights and quality of fish".  His answer was "We will have to look into that" when it was pointed out that they were the same fish they were netting a couple miles down stream.  They could also sort out the "fresh" fish easier then on a commercial boat for a fraction of the cost.  Bottom line was every time a sport fisherman or sport fish interest was made Joe would reply "We have rights, utilizing our alotment, etc." to preface or end every reply.  So anyone can deduct what they want, but as always they will do what they want where they want and no one will stop them because it is not politically correct in our extremely liberal state. 

[GrainfedMuley]

 Very well said....................................

[Geno]

The Coasties don't give a rip about the Clockum.

Get real dude! What makes you think people from the west side don't care anout the Colockum elk herd? Do you think that because you live on the east side of the mtns. that somehow you care more than we do. Let's try not to divide, putting a stop to the indian poaching is going to take every hunter in washington to fix, not just a handful of concerned eastside boys.

[browndog]

 

[Bunkster]

This reall pisses me off.       I can't believe this.    They should not be able to hunt wintering grounds or big bucks, bulls.  Should be cows, does and be regulated and must be checked.  Give the wardens something to do that is on the right track.

[Yummy and Tasty Animal]

Indian Reservations are not going to get removed anytime soon because every politician knows that it is political suicide to speak out against something like that.  The Seattle folk will have a hissy fit, and said politician will never be able to run for office again.  Because in America there is nothing wrong with minorities.  White people are always to blame...in case you haven't watched the news in the past 40 years.

All we have to do is stop buying the Indians crap and they will eventually go under.  I don't think politics will be useful in bringing about their downfall.  We have to use economics.  The only way to legally or politically bring about the downfall of the Indian Reservations is to somehow show that they are breaking the treaty that they signed.  The U.S. Government can't just break a treaty even if it is an incredibly stupid and misguided treaty (Well they could, but I don't think that is the right way to go about this.  I wouldn't mind, but we need to keep this legal so we don't make ourselves look like *censored*es.)

[big_bucks]

They are pieces of sh*t. Not sure what to do yet, but I'm liking what I'm hearing here.