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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #135 on: January 19, 2009, 03:51:06 PM »
you guys got any pictures at all??
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #136 on: January 19, 2009, 07:27:38 PM »
There were a bunch of rednecks that were going to hang some from some tall sagebrushes.  That got the police involved and the state finally did something withthe tribe.  It looked like there was going to be a shoot out.

Like I said, thats the only way its going to get any attention. Unfortunatly the state couldn't touch them and again they got their hands slapped.
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2009, 04:55:18 PM »
well thats the problem all they do is get their hands slapped. :bash: :bash:
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #138 on: February 01, 2009, 09:20:08 PM »
This is why if you guys know these things are happening our website needs pics and videos so we can launch our PR campaign.  Email all pics of rotting fish or poached elk deer whatever to me or FrankDown.  Please.  The sooner we get that stuff the sooner we can stop the never ending Indian slaughter. 
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #139 on: February 02, 2009, 05:13:41 PM »
Everyone wants to put a stop to this but all people do is talk.  FrandDown and I are actually doing something but we need your help.  Many of you have witnessed this stuff or are up there doing these things.  Get pictures of that stuff if you have them or find pictures of this stuff from your friends that see this and email them to us.  We can complain all we want but at the end of the day we're just a bunch of ignorant racist rednecks.  If we have video or photographs then we have the proof to change the tide.  Enough complaining it's time to act.
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #140 on: February 06, 2009, 08:09:34 PM »
i agree close down the the roads during the winter time , that will keep poachers and every other lazy person out of there

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2009, 07:26:11 AM »
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #142 on: February 08, 2009, 02:48:02 PM »
Many on here making some great comments and observations.  Just curious about tribal hunting, is it within tribal policy that they can take unlimited numbers of big game, or do they have to carry some kind of tag?  Also, is it true that they can take animals for other members of the tribe?  If they are just meat hunting for feeding their families, why not shoot the tender does and younger bucks, instead of taking all the mature animals which statistically breed and impregnate the females with higher success.  And like it has been pointed out, Rocky Mountain Elk found in Clockum and Yakima areas are not native, so why do they get to claim traditional hunting rights?
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #143 on: February 08, 2009, 02:51:31 PM »
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Rocky Mountain Elk found in Clockum and Yakima areas are not native, so why do they get to claim traditional hunting rights?

Well they sure as hell weren't hand pulling spotted shrimp up in wicker baskets from 300' in Hood Canal wya back then either but they get half of that harvest as well :bash:
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2009, 03:01:13 PM »
Since they get their share of our wildlife resources, I can assume that they pay their share of taxes on the casinos, RIGHT?  Does anyone know where the regulations and agreements between the tribes and Feds can be found online?
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2009, 03:05:32 PM »
Many on here making some great comments and observations.  Just curious about tribal hunting, is it within tribal policy that they can take unlimited numbers of big game, or do they have to carry some kind of tag?  Also, is it true that they can take animals for other members of the tribe?  If they are just meat hunting for feeding their families, why not shoot the tender does and younger bucks, instead of taking all the mature animals which statistically breed and impregnate the females with higher success.  And like it has been pointed out, Rocky Mountain Elk found in Clockum and Yakima areas are not native, so why do they get to claim traditional hunting rights?


Dare say most of us can only say 'what we've heard' about what is and isn't lawful for them. Therein lies part of the issue.  Their seasons and limitations need to be brought to light so that we aren't going off half cocked on something that may be ok for them.

On the other hand, it would also allow us to better hold them accountable for the more blatant actions outside of their own regulations.  Each tribe has different rules and regs for their people and because of that, it's no wonder nobody seems to really know what is legit and what isn't.  

Game department ought to put out a synopsis or something.

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #146 on: February 08, 2009, 03:13:15 PM »
Nobark, maybe this can be brought up in Ellensberg.  Would be nice if we could find this online so we could be more informed.  Maybe I'll have to email WDFW and ask them.
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #147 on: February 08, 2009, 03:34:32 PM »
Here's some info from the Yakama Nation website:

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Ceded Area (off-Reservation)

The Yakama Nation’s ceded area encompasses 12 million acres, covering nine separate counties in eastern Washington State.

Any enrolled member of the Yakama Nation has the right to hunt, fish, and gather other food, medicine, or ceremonial supplies in open and unclaimed lands within the ceded area. One restriction is the taking of female deer or elk from Jan.1 through August 31. Any tribal member wishing to hunt female deer or elk for ceremonial purposes during this time can obtain a Special Permit. Enrolled tribal members hunting in the ceded areas must carry their enrollment card and other I.D., for game enforcement officers. Unclaimed lands include Federal, State, and other government land, and does not include private land, refuges (such as feeding stations), and safety game zones. Within the ceded areas, there are winter wildlife sanctuaries where seasonal restrictions do apply, except with a Special Permit:

*Winter Feeding Areas (no hunting Dec. 15—March 31)

*Includes Oak Creek Feeding Area, Clover Springs Feeding Area, and Cleman Mountain Feeding Area.)

*Winter Wildlife Sanctuary (no hunting Dec. 31—March 31)

*Sanford Pasture Winter Range.

Special Permit

If you are an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation, you may obtain a Special Permit to hunt for ceremonial purposes in restricted areas or at restricted times. Please contact the Yakama Nation Wildlife, Range, & Vegetation Resources Management Program for information or a permit application.


For more here is a link:  http://www.ynwildlife.org/tribalhunting.php

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #148 on: February 08, 2009, 03:40:07 PM »
This is a link to the Colville Tribal Member's Hunting Seasons:

http://nrd.colvilletribes.com/pdfs/08-09_memberhuntingseasons.pdf

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« Reply #149 on: February 08, 2009, 04:14:48 PM »
Bobcat, thanks.  I'll have to do some reading.  Interested to find out what limits if any they have.  Do they get one animal per member, etc.
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