Baiting: A possible solution?

[huntnnw]

I dont think anything happens this year

[bobcat]

I'm not so sure. They like to make the big changes between the three year cycles, and this is one of those years.

Their thinking may be either do it now or put it off until 2018, and I don't think they want to wait three more years.

I'm expecting to see some sort of restrictions on baiting. But I definitely could be wrong.

[idahohuntr]

I dont think anything happens this year

That is fine.  Lets handle this baiting like every thing else...kick around a few ideas, mull it over a few years, plan a 5 year study, then evaluate data for 8 or 10 years...conclude the study needs improvement...several staff retire...institutional knowledge is lost, a few more years go by and nobody remembers anything about baiting issues. 

Or, how about we agree to evaluate baiting and potential rule changes to baiting right after wolves are de-listed and hunting seasons are set by the commission  

[Special T]

This issue reminds me of the dumb WDFW lady that suggested only 22caliber ammo and #8 bird shot for coyote hunting!

[bobcat]

This issue reminds me of the dumb WDFW lady that suggested only 22caliber ammo and #8 bird shot for coyote hunting!

Actually I think they were going to allow as big as #6.         

[jasnt]

I dont think anything happens this year

That is fine.  Lets handle this baiting like every thing else...kick around a few ideas, mull it over a few years, plan a 5 year study, then evaluate data for 8 or 10 years...conclude the study needs improvement...several staff retire...institutional knowledge is lost, a few more years go by and nobody remembers anything about baiting issues. 

Or, how about we agree to evaluate baiting and potential rule changes to baiting right after wolves are de-listed and hunting seasons are set by the commission  

[Wenatcheejay]

Stalling and inaction are the best solutions to non problem issues like this one.

Being proactive will likely have the effect that questions to ATF regarding the sig brace being fired from the shoulder had. People should leave it alone.

[KFhunter]

enforcing that would be near impossible, that might be our biggest hurdle to keep baiting legal.

[Wenatcheejay]

That was why I compared it to 594.  It is also another way to farther divide hunters, break trust/create mistrust , and stop the share if knowlege.   I'd think one would have to have a pressing self serving interest, or an anti hunting (public hunting) mindset to participate in this.

[JimmyHoffa]

enforcing that would be near impossible, that might be our biggest hurdle to keep baiting legal.

Riiinnnngggg...rrriiinnngggg....
WDFW:  Hello.  WDFW Emergency Poaching Response Team
Caller:  Uh yes, I saw a hunter going up squirrel creek and he had an apple in his hand.
WDFW:  Good job citizen!  Our team is in route, we will be there shortly. 

[Wenatcheejay]

We laugh, but perhaps "littering" will soon be a "potential baiting felony."  Worse than giving your toddler more than the government alloted juice quota.

[idahohuntr]

Short answer - all of them. 

I dont see a problem.  Ag and livestock purposes are exempt in all the current rules drafted by WDFW and I assume the same would apply for the ideas we are kicking around here.  Food plots are also exempt.

[Special T]

It seems to me there WILL BE an outright ban, unless some other option can be agreed upon that restricts baiting in some way.

Would an outright ban for one year be so bad? perhaps it would rile hunters up enough to get motivated...

Being "Proactive" and trying to be "Reasonable" only reinforces the NON SCIENCE based decision of banning bait. Force thier hand and raise holy hell if they do bann it and show how unreasonable and un scientific it is.... Worst case you loose baiting for 1 year then you get to compromise and sound reasonable.

BTW Im not reasonable because it takes a FOOL to argue with one and try an convince them of your sound logic. 

[Wenatcheejay]

Once it's banned it's done. And then it's on to the next minority hunter group.  Sad nobody sees the pattern.

[JimmyHoffa]

Once it's banned it's done. And then it's on to the next minority hunter group.  Sad nobody sees the pattern.

I agree.  Someone will have to blame a different group for lack of success and turn on them too.  It will be the easier pickings at first.  You'll get some zikes on here wanting to ban bugles and rattling because it isn't fair chase making the animals come to you, it'll be called lazy--need to 'real hunt' them.