Spring Turkey is only 3 and a half months away.

[yelp]

TOM TAMER  your post was hard to understand "bullets for your bow"  :dunno:OK well using that logic.. Is the choke for your bow too?  Not sure I follow.  Snow camo is a must...I did get that much.

[Tom Tamer]

No just a smarta$$ answer for arrows

[turkeyhunter]

Hello All, We have a lot of banquets coming up in the State over the next 3 months, If anyone needs info about banquets in your area please get a hold of me, also looking to start up new chapters in Yakima, Davenport, Aberdeen and Omak. If you want to see something happen in your area get a hold of me. I am always looking for new folks that want to be involved in a great organization...ddanilsonnwtf@yahoo.com    Dave D   Regional Director for the NWTF   Washington

 

[yelp]

Was a member once but didn't like the direction the NWTF went.  I dissolved my membership.  I didn't like how the RD treated the volunteers and all of their efforts.  There was a core of hunters that gave a lot of time to the NWTF and they were stepped on.  I still like many of the members.  I think for the most part they are a good group and do a lot for JAKES.  Its too bad its been tainted.  It is hard for me to trust an organization that treats people that way.

[Wacenturion]

Yelp.....got that right.  It's all about the $$$$$ and nothing else.  NWTF won't even stick up to WDFW for what right for Washington members.  Have to get along you know...don't want to rock the boat.....bunch of  BS......lot of good members though, just too bad they are all getting used.

[NWTFhunter]

Hi Dave.  Was wondering how long it would be before you found the site.
Sounds like from the couple post above you might have some work to do.

[turkeyhunter]

The NWTF depends on money raised by banquets but at the same time puts back close to 60% into the State Super Fund to be used by the volunteers for local projects. There has already been this year $23,000.00 approved for Washington chapters to be used how they see fit. If some of you feel like you have been mistreated or that the NWTF has short changed you it was by no means personal. I am working diligently for Turkey hunters in Washington. Please feel free to contact me any time with your questions and comments. We have a great thing going and we will only be successful with the help of volunteers.

[Wacenturion]

You know I was not going to reply but....lets clarify things.
First .....

                  "The NWTF depends on money raised by banquets but at the same time puts back close to 60% into the State Super Fund to be used by the volunteers for local projects."

Key words here.....close to 60% and Super Fund. 
Just over 40% goes right off the top to Edgefield to support the high salaries of the administration all the way down to the field staff.  I find it unbelievable that the top 3-4 postions command in the range of 200k-400k with expenses.  That should raise a red flag.
Not sure if % is correct due to all the net to gross manipulation that goes on that futher confuses the issue.  Also if I remember right membership dollars all go to NWTF....no 60/40 there.  So again.....60/40 split.....depends on how you manipulate it.  Truth be know.....a whole lot less than 60%.  But who cares we all got "Golden Gobbler" caps....lol.

State Super Fund....just another word for your account under our control, with a sign off to ensure our complete control.  Another smoke and mirror job.


                 "There has already been this year $23,000.00 approved for Washington chapters to be used how they see fit."

Key words here......used how they see fit.
Wrong...........pretty much set up in a way to spend it the way the NWTF intended the chapters to spend it.  Not to say some of the expenditures are not good....jakes etc.  Not really criticizing some of the expenditures, just the control over it......or should I say subtle pressures to spend it here or there.  Hard to explain unless you've been there and done that.


In reality, the only reason a now weakened state chapter system still even exists is because members enjoy getting together and feeling like they are making a difference for turkeys and related recreational opportunities.  There's an established history of doing so.  As far as the NWTF, it's has at times.....many times in fact , been an irritant.  The Federation doesn't even want individual chapters to have their own bank accounts......again....control over chapters and dollars.  Another red flag. 

Just something that goes with the turf because of the Federation's support through things like "Chinese" banquet packages, etc.  I am a chapter therefore I deal with the NWTF.  Kinda like I am a dog, therefore I deal with fleas.

[turkeyhunter]

Reminds me of a story, I was Turkey hunting a few years ago and I happened on two Guy's and about a 14 year old kid, I asked one of the fellas if they had seen anything and they were overjoyed to tell me all about the morning hunt, Birds everywhere, never had so much fun hunting in their lives, after about 10 minutes of swapping hunting stories the kid asked what the NWTF on my hat stood for. I told him it was the National Wild Turkey Federation. The other gentleman said he was not aware that there was a club for Turkey hunters. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Just because you do not believe in Consevation of the Wild Turkey and the Preservation of our Hunting Heritage does not mean you can run a great organization to the ground. The State Chapter system spends the money how they see fit. I know the facts and would not post blogs on this site if I was not able and willing to stand up for a organization I believe in. You can continue running me down and call me a liar but I will keep coming back and speak the truth. If you want to make a difference and have your voice heard get involved in your local chapter and have a say where the money goes. I appreciate all of your comments good and bad. Look forward to hearing more

[Wacenturion]

So if I understand you right, if I'm not part of the solution.....that being the NWTF solution, then I'm part of the problem.  Yep, I will agree with on that one.  Just because I have issues with the way some conservation organizations operate, in this case the NWTF, doesn't mean I don't care.  But you can take it however you want.

To say.........

             "Just because you do not believe in Consevation of the Wild Turkey and the Preservation of our Hunting Heritage does not mean you can run a great organization to the ground."

is absolutely ridiculous.  Where did I say that?  I'm extremely concerned about the conservation of the Washington's wild turkey, as well as other wildlife....just not the Federation's brand of conservation is all.  That's your opinion because I pointed out some shortcomings I see in your parent organization.  Yep....that the way it works.....just like I remember when I was involved.  If you don't tow the party line, then you're part of the problem.  Running a great organization into the ground?  Nope ...just didn't drink as much kool-aid as some is all.   

Where did I run you down?  Don't think I said anything directed at you personally like I could have.  Did I say you were here trolling for suckers?  Could have...didn't.  Oh...well I guess I just did.

Don't remember calling you a liar, but if it makes you feel better about speaking "your" truth, feel free to embrace it.  I'll leave that up to you.  I'm just pointing out some facts as I see them regarding the NWTF.  Oh....and conservation is spelled with and "r" in it.                                                        

[turkeyhunter]

Sorry about the Sp, I was typing while thinking. Thank you to the folks that have sent me personal emails...And no I am not offended, I am pretty thick skinned. Look forward to hearing more from all of you.  I did spell check on this one, do not need to upset the English professors on the site....

[hornhunter]

You probably shoulda started your own thread instead of stealing this one  

I was ONCE a member as well.

Excuse me sir but the fact that I am no longer a member of the NWTF as NOTHING to do me not believing in The Conservation of the Wild Turkey or Preservation of my hunting heritage.  Mr Regional Director I would choose your words wisely on this site because the people here and the eyes that read these pages are as commited to their sport as you are to your position Im sure.

BTW Welcome to the site.  

 Im sure we all look forward to hearing more about whats going on with Washington and the NWTF.

[yelp]

Hornhunter...you getting excited yet?  I can just see that big gobbler strutting behind me gobbling up a storm.  Then you start shaking and you can't breath...you feel that sucker is looking right at you....then you hear the PSSSSTBHUM  PSSSTBHUM  Then a GOBBLE...you catch movement and then a Putt Putt Putt...the Jig is up and the little bitch hen is skipping away with Mr. Big. That was my nightmare two years ago......Damn Hens...I can't wait....yelp yelp!

[Turkeyman]

 

[Gobble]

 

Me Too!