NEW GOAT UNIT Conflict Reduction

[kkc66]

 DOES ANY ONE HAVE INFO ON THIS UNIT? I do know that it is by the park where that guy got killed a few years back buy a billy but from the unit info your outside the park so my question is what are the chances of  getting a  billy and how hard of a hunt will it be? l have 18 points. is this a no brainer hunt?

6009 East Olympic Mtns A N/A 3 Sept. 15 - 25 NEW-----3 permits
6010 East Olympic Mtns B N/A 3 Sept. 26 - Oct. 6 NEW -- 3 permits

[cem3434]

It's a new hunt category, so you will have only one point going into the drawing just like everyone else. 

[bobcat]

Here's a thread about that hunt from last year:

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,155039.msg2053065.html#msg2053065

[kkc66]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,155039.msg2053065.html#msg2053065 IS NOT THE SAME UNIT

[cem3434]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,155039.msg2053065.html#msg2053065 IS NOT THE SAME UNIT

  My wife bought the app and only had one point for the unit when she applied even though she has like 10 points for the other goat category.  For the first time since they started the new point system, it looks like multiple people are going to draw a goat tag with only one point!   

WDFW will probably make another $25K plus in permit sales by breaking that out as another category. Maybe we will get lucky and they can put the excess money back into the general fund, so none of the additional permit fees are used to manage wildlife at all. 

[jackelope]

DOES ANY ONE HAVE INFO ON THIS UNIT? I do know that it is by the park where that guy got killed a few years back buy a billy but from the unit info your outside the park so my question is what are the chances of  getting a  billy and how hard of a hunt will it be? l have 18 points. is this a no brainer hunt?

6009 East Olympic Mtns A N/A 3 Sept. 15 - 25 NEW-----3 permits
6010 East Olympic Mtns B N/A 3 Sept. 26 - Oct. 6 NEW -- 3 permits

Odds are that nobody will have any experience hunting goats in this new unit.
Maybe hiking through or seeing goats I guess...but they're new units so there's not going to be anyone with hunting experience....
I don't know if any goat hunt in Washington would be what I call a no-brainer.

[Nature Boy]

I helped put one of the Mt. Washington tag holders on a goat last year.  Anyone planning to put in for the new conflict tags and expects to find a mature billy needs to be advised that this is steep, rugged country and there are no trails serving the high basins that hold goats.  Be prepared for Class 3 rock climbing and be in "mountain" shape.     

[JimmyHoffa]

They expanded the boundaries.  You don't need to be in super shape to get there now.  You can go in on stock if you wanted.  I've seen lots of goats around Buckhorn, Goat Lake, Charlia, etc.  Trail to Goat Lake is sucky, but if you go up the old quad trail not too bad but overgrown.  For Buckhorn can go up the Big Quilcene River or go from Tubal Cain Mine.  Those are long walks, but no climbing needed.  But TONS of hikers out walking dogs there.
Only guys I know that hunt goats there are tribal.

[Nature Boy]

Thanks I'll check out the new boundary.  I've been to some of the places you mention and have seen goats there but mostly nannies and kidds.  I'd expect if someone is after a trophy billy you'll still need to go steep and deep.  Depends on what your expectations are for the OIL opportunity.

[JimmyHoffa]

The new boundary is basically lake Cushman on the south to the Clallam Jefferson line on the north--(Mt Townsend/confluence of Royal Creek and Dungeness River).  Lots more turf.

[cem3434]

Thanks I'll check out the new boundary.  I've been to some of the places you mention and have seen goats there but mostly nannies and kidds.  I'd expect if someone is after a trophy billy you'll still need to go steep and deep.  Depends on what your expectations are for the OIL opportunity.

I dont think it's considered an OIL tag and they actually encourage the taking of any goat, including nannies. Since its a conflict resolution tag, I think successful hunters can apply again after drawing it. Read the regs because they changed a bunch of stuff. 

[fishngamereaper]

I must be reading it wrong. It looks like if you draw the conflict tag you are done. The regs say the once in a lifetime restriction  includes all Goat/- Goat Conflict tags....I wouldn't waste a OIL tag on a conflict tag. But I may be missing something.

[Bob33]

 

I must be reading it wrong. It looks like if you draw the conflict tag you are done. The regs say the once in a lifetime restriction  includes all Goat/- Goat Conflict tags....I wouldn't waste a OIL tag on a conflict tag. But I may be missing something.

Goat conflict tags are included in the "once in a lifetime" restriction. If you kill one on a conflict tag you are done.

[kkc66]

With the new expanded  boundaries can this hunt be packed in by horse or ATV?

[cem3434]

Bob is correct, if you kill a goat them you're done.