Blues or Nooksack with your Quality Points?

[GameHunter1959]

Not to depress anyone, BUT I had 36 elk points 3 years ago, yup 36, thanks to a couple poachers.  With that amount, I still didn't get drawn for the Blues first time.  I finally drew with 37 the next year, AND then drew my second choice behind Dayton, drew W. Wenaha.  Just goes to show how watered down the points pools really are 

Goes to show that points don't mean a whole lot when you have 1000's of people trying to draw 20 tags or so in a random draw.

People need to stop thinking that pts equal tags.  Most people that I know that have drawn quality tags didn't have very many pts.

This is why they need to put a point prerequisite on the more desirable hunts. IMO the higher the points the more substantially likely you are to draw, is the way it should be. People say they won't apply for special permits if they do that to cost the game department money. The same guys say they won't pay to hunt. Now they are paying to hunt. Just like they will continue to pay for special permits.

Too many high point holders. 20 points doesn't hold much weight under the current system.

[X-Force]

Putting a points prerequisite wouldn't matter because there aren't enough premium tags to decrease the number of top point holders.

Its the system. Limiting options not dedicating tags is the only way to fix it.


Personally I would take the nook over the blues because I can see it from my house.

[GameHunter1959]

Putting a points prerequisite wouldn't matter because there aren't enough premium tags to decrease the number of top point holders.

Its the system. Limiting options not dedicating tags is the only way to fix it.


Personally I would take the nook over the blues because I can see it from my house.

By my logic...if you have to have say 20 points or more to apply for Dayton; that means only high point holders are drawn thus taking them out of next years draw. plus lower point holders are eliminated to begin with. How is that not helping? simple logic. Make Dayton a OIL hunt. that should help

[X-Force]

Putting a points prerequisite wouldn't matter because there aren't enough premium tags to decrease the number of top point holders.

Its the system. Limiting options not dedicating tags is the only way to fix it.


Personally I would take the nook over the blues because I can see it from my house.

By my logic...if you have to have say 20 points or more to apply for Dayton; that means only high point holders are drawn thus taking them out of next years draw. plus lower point holders are eliminated to begin with. How is that not helping? simple logic. Make Dayton a OIL hunt. that should help

It wouldn't help. There are 120 people this year with 20+ points next year there will be another 100

Their arent enough premium tags to keep up with or reduce the number of 20+ point applicants.

As it stands premium permits are basically Oil tags because of the likelihood of drawing again.

[Bigshooter]

So you think it's a good idea to make it so you have to have 20+ pts to apply for a tag?  Sounds like a great idea if you have 20+ pts.  But if you just passed hunters ed it kinda sucks.

[Bigshooter]

So you think it's a good idea to make it so you have to have 20+ pts to apply for a tag?  Sounds like a great idea if you have 20+ pts.  But if you just passed hunters ed it kinda sucks.

No matter what anyone says the average quality bull draw in 20 years will be 26 points. It has to 1000 permits 26000 active applicants (no ghost) points, no points it doesn't matter.

I agree.  And I also don't care what the average pts to draw will be in any year.

[X-Force]

So you think it's a good idea to make it so you have to have 20+ pts to apply for a tag?  Sounds like a great idea if you have 20+ pts.  But if you just passed hunters ed it kinda sucks.

No matter what anyone says the average quality bull draw in 20 years will be 26 points. It has to 1000 permits 26000 active applicants (no ghost) points, no points it doesn't matter.

The average will be 1/13 (50% of the 1000 permits/26000 applicants)

Premium permits who would require a higher threshold (20+ points) would still have near impossible odds odds because of the numbers of new applicants with 20+ points will increase the pool at a faster rate than those premium permits could reduce the numbers from successful draws. 

I agree.  And I also don't care what the average pts to draw will be in any year.

I think you made that clear on another thread 

Math was all wrong last night. Laying in bed, looking at crap on my phone, wasnt thinking straight.

[Bigshooter]

So you think it's a good idea to make it so you have to have 20+ pts to apply for a tag?  Sounds like a great idea if you have 20+ pts.  But if you just passed hunters ed it kinda sucks.

No matter what anyone says the average quality bull draw in 20 years will be 26 points. It has to 1000 permits 26000 active applicants (no ghost) points, no points it doesn't matter.

I agree.  And I also don't care what the average pts to draw will be in any year.

I think you made that clear on another thread 

That was a good thread.  There were a couple good ideas in it.