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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2015, 06:10:08 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.
You must first be honest with yourself,Until then your just lying to everyone.

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2015, 06:17:58 PM »
the composite ones are different mfgs.

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2015, 06:20:11 PM »
the composite ones are different mfgs.
Yes and these same as billet.A few diff. manufactures MAGPUL got the first patent to make these composite ones.
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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2015, 06:28:39 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.


Probably not the same company, but maybe the same small number of companies.

See the thread over at AR15.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/318113_index.html

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2015, 06:45:31 PM »
 :yeah: Yes this is more like what I was to understand.Do these 4  Co. also forge their own or does that boil down to just 1 forging co.?
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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2015, 06:46:11 PM »
I have a New Frontier polymer on one of mine. It works just like the metal lowers. Plum Crazy is another polymer brand too. I paid $125 delivered for my complete New Frontier.
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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2015, 07:02:03 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.

I have observed forged lowers being cut (start to finish) at Aero Precision, MEGA and OLY.

We (Grizz Precision) have been getting quotes from several FFL07 manufacturers to make our branded lowers (Billet and forged) for us on a variance.






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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2015, 07:05:18 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.


Probably not the same company, but maybe the same small number of companies.

See the thread over at AR15.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/318113_index.html

Look at the date on the thread

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2015, 07:11:21 PM »
:yeah: Yes this is more like what I was to understand.Do these 4  Co. also forge their own or does that boil down to just 1 forging co.?



I'm no expert... I just find it un-likely that all AR15 lowers are manufactured by one company.

From the AR15.com link:

There are currently FOUR manufacturers that produce the majority of lower receivers for the AR market.

MMS, CMT, LMT and LAR receive orders from many licensed manufacturers who obtain an ATF variance to have them cut and logo receivers on their behalf.

The guy seems pretty knowledgeable, and no one rebuked him.  It seems that if you put out bad information on AR15.com there are always lots of people that are more than happy to jump on you...




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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2015, 07:14:18 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.


Probably not the same company, but maybe the same small number of companies.

See the thread over at AR15.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/318113_index.html

Look at the date on the thread


Yep, my mistake...

So, back in 2007, there were 4 major manufactures.

Now, there are even more.

Like is said, I just couldn't believe all lowers were made by one company.

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2015, 07:19:45 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.

I have observed forged lowers being cut (start to finish) at Aero Precision, MEGA and OLY.

We (Grizz Precision) have been getting quotes from several FFL07 manufacturers to make our branded lowers (Billet and forged) for us on a variance.
first the grizz stuff looks awesome,Second You say you have seen them cut from start to finish cool but did they come in forged first.If you didnt see a foundry they prob. didnt have one.  :twocents: ME I am retired Machinist,Engineer after my Military career .Now Foundries are very far and very few between.
You must first be honest with yourself,Until then your just lying to everyone.

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2015, 07:21:20 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.


Probably not the same company, but maybe the same small number of companies.

See the thread over at AR15.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/318113_index.html

Look at the date on the thread


Yep, my mistake...

So, back in 2007, there were 4 major manufactures.

Now, there are even more.

Like is said, I just couldn't believe all lowers were made by one company.
THE KEY TO THIS HERE POINT IS THAT THEY ALL MACHINE    FORGED    LOWERS.I look at this as the forged lowers come in and then they machine the already forged lowers.Do they all have a foundry?I doubt it lol
You must first be honest with yourself,Until then your just lying to everyone.

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2015, 07:32:34 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.


Probably not the same company, but maybe the same small number of companies.

See the thread over at AR15.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/318113_index.html

Look at the date on the thread


Yep, my mistake...

So, back in 2007, there were 4 major manufactures.

Now, there are even more.

Like is said, I just couldn't believe all lowers were made by one company.
THE KEY TO THIS HERE POINT IS THAT THEY ALL MACHINE    FORGED    LOWERS.I look at this as the forged lowers come in and then they machine the already forged lowers.Do they all have a foundry?I doubt it lol


I do hear what you are saying. I'm not "in the know" enough to know the answer to your idea. Maybe jay.sharkbait can chime in. I still can't buy that only one Foundry makes them all...

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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2015, 07:38:11 PM »
The way i understand it is there really is only 1 lower that all other manufactures use (unless of course its billet).The logos and such are just put on when ordered.

Aero
Anderson
Mega
Oly
CMT
LMT

All machine Forged lowers.

I'm sure there are more
I am gonna say this again,The way I understand it is all AR lowers are made by the same company then sent off to the customers to finish except those that are billet.You have proof of other wise I would love to see it.

I have observed forged lowers being cut (start to finish) at Aero Precision, MEGA and OLY.

We (Grizz Precision) have been getting quotes from several FFL07 manufacturers to make our branded lowers (Billet and forged) for us on a variance.
first the grizz stuff looks awesome,Second You say you have seen them cut from start to finish cool but did they come in forged first.If you didnt see a foundry they prob. didnt have one.  :twocents: ME I am retired Machinist,Engineer after my Military career .Now Foundries are very far and very few between.

I don't know if the forgings were Alcoa, Anchor-Harvey, CAPCO, Cardinal or any of the others.

Thanks for the compliment!


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Re: AR Lowers?
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2015, 07:43:57 PM »
A foundry would only be necessary for a casting, not the forging.  You can use a high temp oven for forging.  Don't need to melt, just stress relief.

 


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