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Author Topic: 10 Point Taxidermy in Marysville....I fell like i got my bear stolen!  (Read 24012 times)

Offline irishevox

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I stopped by and talked to him. If you can call him tonight he's
Home and wants to talk to you. 425-879-4837 don't email him
He doesn't do email, and he said he hasn't got any messages from
You. I don't know if you left messages or just hung up cause he
Didn't answer. Let me know if you need more. It's only been 10
Months so I don't know if time expectations were discussed or not.
But obviously you two need to talk.
He did email me but I can't call him I am on deployment... it is impossible.
  I truly appreciate helping me with this and getting a hold of him  the biggest issue is that if he doesn't do email he needs to remove the email from his Website.  You have no idea how grateful I am you helping me with this.
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Can your wife call the taxidermist?

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I stopped by and talked to him. If you can call him tonight he's
Home and wants to talk to you. 425-879-4837 don't email him
He doesn't do email, and he said he hasn't got any messages from
You. I don't know if you left messages or just hung up cause he
Didn't answer. Let me know if you need more. It's only been 10
Months so I don't know if time expectations were discussed or not.
But obviously you two need to talk.

Awesome, thanks to all for helping Irishevox out,  I also live close to the taxi.

Irishevox PM me if you need it picked up and shipped in the future, I would be glad to help out anyway I can.

Thanks for your service!
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Thanks for helpin out !

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what a site, :tup: :tup:

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My wife calls multiple times while I am still on deployment here and no answer my wife and I emailed him several times with no response....
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I have a problem when I read this thread and I have a few questions for the OP


1. What was the stated turn around time on your rug.
 IMHO your way to wound up over waiting a whole 8 months for a bear rug when the industry standard is 18-24 months.

2. Why state that you feel that your bear was stolen
   IMHO your insinuating that this taxidermist ripped you off yet from what I can see you have offered no clear evidence that there is any wrong doing on his part except possible poor communications on both parties part. Clearly there are circumstances here that lend themselves to poor communications which is why if you were going out of conus you should have taken care of prior to departure. I see absolutely no reason to call out this business online in an attempt to discredit his business.

I'll leave you with this note:
 You paid nothing down, gave no indication of an expected turn around time and Incited the hunt wa community to PRESSURE this business. There are far too many people here that have waited FAR FAR FAR FAR longer than 8 months to receive their goods from their taxidermists. Personally I think you should have thought twice before posting this with the business name attached to it. 

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Can't say I disagree with you Kuduman...
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I have a problem when I read this thread and I have a few questions for the OP


1. What was the stated turn around time on your rug.
 IMHO your way to wound up over waiting a whole 8 months for a bear rug when the industry standard is 18-24 months.

2. Why state that you feel that your bear was stolen
   IMHO your insinuating that this taxidermist ripped you off yet from what I can see you have offered no clear evidence that there is any wrong doing on his part except possible poor communications on both parties part. Clearly there are circumstances here that lend themselves to poor communications which is why if you were going out of conus you should have taken care of prior to departure. I see absolutely no reason to call out this business online in an attempt to discredit his business.

I'll leave you with this note:
 You paid nothing down, gave no indication of an expected turn around time and Incited the hunt wa community to PRESSURE this business. There are far too many people here that have waited FAR FAR FAR FAR longer than 8 months to receive their goods from their taxidermists. Personally I think you should have thought twice before posting this with the business name attached to it. 

:twocents:

Multiple good points. Especially since you can't call the guy due to your deployment....

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I have a problem when I read this thread and I have a few questions for the OP


1. What was the stated turn around time on your rug.
 IMHO your way to wound up over waiting a whole 8 months for a bear rug when the industry standard is 18-24 months.

2. Why state that you feel that your bear was stolen
   IMHO your insinuating that this taxidermist ripped you off yet from what I can see you have offered no clear evidence that there is any wrong doing on his part except possible poor communications on both parties part. Clearly there are circumstances here that lend themselves to poor communications which is why if you were going out of conus you should have taken care of prior to departure. I see absolutely no reason to call out this business online in an attempt to discredit his business.

I'll leave you with this note:
 You paid nothing down, gave no indication of an expected turn around time and Incited the hunt wa community to PRESSURE this business. There are far too many people here that have waited FAR FAR FAR FAR longer than 8 months to receive their goods from their taxidermists. Personally I think you should have thought twice before posting this with the business name attached to it. 

:twocents:

Kudman... You assuming I didn't take care of as much as I could before hand is insulting.  I did when I talked to him about turn around time he didn't not give me a guaranteed date, but provided me with a round about date.  After several emails etc... his excuse was he doesn't check emails.  If that's the case remove email from your website. Secondly  The communication was done countless times by my wife and I emailing and my wife calling.  And I do not care what other people have done it's not me I am the customer.  The fact is and the amazing thing is one person stopped by and I got an email. Imagine that.   Yeah I think that if you are going to run a business you should keep constant communication with your customers and keep up on your emails.  Electronic communication is a big thing in the 21st Century.  I didn't directly state that he stole the bear I said it feel like it was.  If it was "stolen" I would have taken a different route.  I am not really wound up about the 8 months to be honest I am wound up about when I ask a question or have a request, and my wife calls and her and I email several times and hear nothing back... there is a problem here, not with me per say, but with how a business is run.  IMHO please know facts before I give your :twocents: or feel free to PM me if u have any other questions I can answer for you
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Irishevox:
 
 had you gotten on here and ask if anyone could assist you in getting in contact with your taxidermist seeing as you are deployed.... Hell I would have wanted to help. But that's not what you did... You started out by inferring that you feel like you got ripped off. If you equate missed calls and unanswered e mails to being ripped off  then brother you need to look at some other threads on here.

Again I ask what was the turnaround time. that caused you to feel this way after 8 months.

There are allot of good people on there that have been blatantly lied to and have far better reasons to rant so quite honestly your whole approach to this baffles me.

GOOD LUCK

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WOW, sorry to hear about this seems to be a whole lot of mis communication and or one sided attempts at communication. Communication is the key if both parties want to keep things positive.

  And holy crap 18 to 24 months as an industry standard---screw that. If the longest term part of the project is getting it tanned. I would suggest using Moyle Mink & Tannery in Heyburn ID. I have had bear and elk hides done in one to two months.  The do garment grade or taxidermy grade. Seems like otter, bobcat, coyote  and beaver come back pretty quick. Just reminder to have the cities tags on otter and bobcat no one will touch them without the tags.

I have had a bear and coyotes done taxidermy grade just in case I every wanted to do anything with them. The bear I have hanging over an elk hide on a half wall and looks pretty cool that way. I would have the bear rugged out, but I have a bigger one on the wall already and the only way I would rug another one is if it was significally bigger and a different color phase. For 140.00 to a 150.00 a running foot that taxidermist want a 5 1/2 foot bear is going to cost you 825.00 plus tax

I think MM&T charged me 60.00 for the bear, maybe it was 90.00. So, I was thinking I have a bear hide tanned out, watch a you tube video, buy a head form for a rug mount, some felt for the border and presto! a bear rugged out. Nope, it is fine just as it is, I just need to get a bigger bear

I don't know maybe taxidermists are being overwhelmed and are super backed up. I do know that I can get coyote tanned for 25.00 and they make great wall hangings (case skinned, not rugged out) next to your elk or deer mounts. 25.00 for tanning is cheap if you have ever spent the time and energy trying to tan something your self. I should have added my thoughts time frames and taxidermist, but that is also in my list of replies. Communicate. Paul A.
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Threewolves:

 You are absolutely right MM&T can get your hides out pretty quick and your also right that they do garment quality tan. I know this because the last time I used them to tan a cougar hide  it came back with a missing ear so their line between garment quality and taxidermy quality can get pretty thin and that's simply not acceptable to me. 
 
Now i ask you. what do I tell the customer that hires me to mount his once in a lifetime cat when his hide come back with a missing ear, that you wanted to save money on the tan.......... I wanted it quicker........  :dunno:

Good commercial tanneries that consistently put out a quality tanned hide can be extremely busy and backlogged. The longest I've waited for a tanning order is 12 months. my current fall 2014 order has been at my tannery since January. Once the hide is mounted and stretched it has to go to rugging and that can take an additional 4-6 months depending on how busy the rugger is. 

I think it great that you dabble in taxidermy when you get items you want tanned but do me a favor. take the time you have invested in that one bear that you had tanned and times it by 20 add 50 deer 12 elk 5 cougars half a dozen bobcat, coyotes and about 25 pheasants, quail and grouse 12 bear skulls 6 European elk and a dozen deer European mounts with a smattering of antler and horn mounts   and you might start getting a better perspective of what running a shop is all about.







 

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This is really none of my business and I was only trying to encourage someone to help irishevox find out about his bear since he is deployed, but it sounded like there was no down payment, the taxidermist will incur expenses like tanning before he even gets started on the mount. I would advise irishevox to have his wife find out how much down payment the taxi needs. If I was a taxi I wouldn't incur expenses until there is a down payment.  :dunno:

I also should mention that kuduman is correct, most good taxis are backed up 18-24 months or more. Depending on the procedure used by the taxi sometimes turnaround is much faster with deer but a bear rug usually takes much longer. Just trying to offer some friendly advice!  :twocents:
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For what it is worth I know that a bunch of Taxi’s in this state are a little behind because of tannery issues. I use a Taxi who also runs a tannery and because of the backlog that he took over from other tannery’s that have gone under even his times have gone up. This is understandable and the fact that he is his own tannery and it has effected him can only lead a person to believe that if the tanning is not done in house it is going to take longer. I know that my Bull has been with him for the past year and a half and I’m not surprised as that is just the nature of the business. Once you make it to 2 years plus it might be time to start asking questions. Anyway, hope you get it figured out I just wanted to give you some perspective on timeframe. Also, stay safe on your deployment! 
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