Swakane GMU 250 closures

[jrebel]

Not sure I agree with all you "pro gate hunters".....  What about the kid, guy, or gal that cannot hike like they use to.  What about the disabled hunter or overweight hunter??  Since when did hunting turn into a young fit persons sport?   If they want gates so they can lock up winter grounds following hunting season...I am all for it.  I am not for shutting down and restricting public grounds any more than they already have.   

Being fat and out of shape shouldn't be an excuse to want the roads open. There are people who are overweight due to medical conditions, but it isn't an excuse for the other fat people. you shouldn't need roads to hunt

If fat people want to hunt that area, they should get in shape.

j

So you are saying it is a fit persons sport?  I don't agree....and for the record If we continually give up land to gates, before you know it, it will all be gated.  One of these days you will be old and have limitations...does that mean you should not hunt at that point.  It is a shame that young hunters have this mind set.   

[Igottanewknee]

Not sure I agree with all you "pro gate hunters".....  What about the kid, guy, or gal that cannot hike like they use to.  What about the disabled hunter or overweight hunter??  Since when did hunting turn into a young fit persons sport?   If they want gates so they can lock up winter grounds following hunting season...I am all for it.  I am not for shutting down and restricting public grounds any more than they already have.   

Being fat and out of shape shouldn't be an excuse to want the roads open. There are people who are overweight due to medical conditions, but it isn't an excuse for the other fat people. you shouldn't need roads to hunt

If fat people want to hunt that area, they should get in shape.

So me with both knees replaced, 3 back surgeries ( I used to do iron work), should just toughen up? There is only so far I can walk, especially up those roads. I'm 58 and work full time climbing up and down stairs doing maintenance. I hope you stay in shape when you get older... And try not to get hurt.....

[RadSav]

So me with both knees replaced, 3 back surgeries ( I used to do iron work), should just toughen up? There is only so far I can walk, especially up those roads. I'm 58 and work full time climbing up and down stairs doing maintenance. I hope you stay in shape when you get older... And try not to get hurt.....

I guess you have served your usefulness to society.  You've had a lifetime of opportunities. Time to pack it up and wait for the reaper on the couch like all the other worthless broken old folks.  No room in Washington for guys like you...and me  

Ahhh, if only we were as smart and superior as the youth of today!



Sorry, I couldn't find the sarcasm font for this post.

[YoterHunter]

All you folks that think it's great.  Wait till you have a life changing situation were you can't get out and spend all day running up and down the hills. It happens to me 2 1/2 years ago I was one of those . I put more miles in the woods then a lot of you   So now that I can't run the hills like I use to. So now I shouldn't be hunting these units. Gates are for private property and timber company's not Natinal forest

[grundy53]

Not sure I agree with all you "pro gate hunters".....  What about the kid, guy, or gal that cannot hike like they use to.  What about the disabled hunter or overweight hunter??  Since when did hunting turn into a young fit persons sport?   If they want gates so they can lock up winter grounds following hunting season...I am all for it.  I am not for shutting down and restricting public grounds any more than they already have.   

Couldn't agree more! Every single citizen pays taxes for that land. And every single  hunter pays for a license and tag. Some aren't more deserving than others just because they are young and in shape. If you don't like roads you have the option to get off of them.

[RadSav]

I actually support a good balance between gated and free access.  But it is disturbing how much of a youth elitist mentality hunting is producing these days.  I expect a lot coming from the access to TV shows and extreme publications.  Sad in a way that we so quickly throw those who mentored into the lazy and worthless classification all for a number in a record book or a name on a plaque.  Once a proud heritage, now an elitist self promoting soap box.

[Elkaholic daWg]

So me with both knees replaced, 3 back surgeries ( I used to do iron work), should just toughen up? There is only so far I can walk, especially up those roads. I'm 58 and work full time climbing up and down stairs doing maintenance. I hope you stay in shape when you get older... And try not to get hurt.....

I guess you have served your usefulness to society.  You've had a lifetime of opportunities. Time to pack it up and wait for the reaper on the couch like all the other worthless broken old folks.  No room in Washington for guys like you...and me  

Ahhh, if only we were as smart and superior as the youth of today!



Sorry, I couldn't find the sarcasm font for this post.

Not sure I agree with all you "pro gate hunters".....  What about the kid, guy, or gal that cannot hike like they use to.  What about the disabled hunter or overweight hunter??  Since when did hunting turn into a young fit persons sport?   If they want gates so they can lock up winter grounds following hunting season...I am all for it.  I am not for shutting down and restricting public grounds any more than they already have.   

Couldn't agree more! Every single citizen pays taxes for that land. And every single  hunter pays for a license and tag. Some aren't more deserving than others just because they are young and in shape. If you don't like roads you have the option to get off of them.

Elitists like them fit in well in Seattle.

[GurrCentral]

Just get a Jeep...you can get anywhere....

[j_h_nimrod]

I agree with jrebel, RadSav, and the others. I am still fit and able but don't agree that closing access will improve my odds of finding a good animal. The area closed is really actually small in the scheme of things, a reasonably in shape person could hike them in a day or two if they wanted.  It is not as if you were heading into the backcountry, the area is surrounded by roads with not more than a mile or two in any direction bringing you to a new one. I agree that closing those roads after late drawing seasons would be a good thing, the natives have plenty of other roads to poach harvest (?) from. If the FS has been up there this spring there is no reason to have the roads closed, the burned area has re grown very well and is in much better shape then the north side of the Entiat regardless that it did not burn there.



As a note, the road out of Swakane Canyon has been closed for at least 4 years and is not a reflection of this latest nuisance. 

[skeeter 20i]

"Shouldn' bait"
"Shouldn't shoot that far"
"Shouldn't use roads"
"Shouldn't be out of shape"
"Shouldn't apply to units you havent previously scouted"
etc. etc.

 I think it's  great that there are so many people so well versed in what other people should and shouldn't  do. 

[logger]

the forest service just loves to close roads that way they don't have to manage crap, which they are not good at anyway. for me its not a hunting issue but a public land issue, whether your hunting or just taking the family on a road trip you should be able to, you pay for it!

[Ridgerunner]

The bigger issue is this ranger is closing down huge chunks of public land without a good reason.  As has been stated in the past once these fires were done the area was re-opened.  Same with farther up the entiat road.  I'm personally sick of her shutting down access to these areas without solid reasoning. 

[grundy53]

the forest service just loves to close roads that way they don't have to manage crap, which they are not good at anyway. for me its not a hunting issue but a public land issue, whether your hunting or just taking the family on a road trip you should be able to, you pay for it!

Good point.

[timberfaller]

All I can say is WOW!!  What a bunch of Elitist some hunters have become!!

YOU'VE ignore the FACT that the ONLY reason for installing gates is, wait for it, CONTROL!!

NO more NO less.

Like many others who worked at real jobs their entire work life, I have two warn out hip joints, one knee operated on twice and one ankle worked over three times and one shoulder that L&I refused to allowed to be repaired.

I STILL HUNT but not like I use to,  but you clowns have no clue about SPORT or Sportsmanship!

FYI for YOU "elitist"  Check out WHO makes up the USFS "employee union" it will  you!  maybe

[MLBowhunting]

Well the incident with the jeep in the Entiat doesn't help our cause.  These gates are gonna help the herd and habitat.