Max ethical range

[RadSav]

My grandpa taught me, "When you know you can kill 'em - Just do it already!"

[Seabass]

I can't stick a pitching wedge from 130 yards out but PGA golfer's do it all the time.

[Odell]

You determine your ethics not anyone else.

Yes and no. Ethics are highly influenced by your community and culture and variable according to those contexts.

Imagine what people would do if there were no other people around.

[jay.sharkbait]

You determine your ethics not anyone else.

Yes and no. Ethics are highly influenced by your community and culture and variable according to those contexts.

Imagine what people would do if there were no other people around.

Why should the "community" judge others based on their skillsets?

[Odell]

I don't think that's what's happening but communities do you shape ethics, we are doing it right now in this thread

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

I don't think that's what's happening but communities do you shape ethics, we are doing it right now in this thread

No one is around 99% of the time when I shoot my elk/deer every year.. that has no bearing on what shot I will or will not take.

[Odell]

I don't think that's what's happening but communities do you shape ethics, we are doing it right now in this thread

No one is around 99% of the time when I shoot my elk/deer every year.. that has no bearing on what shot I will or will not take.

I'm the same way I don't mean just if no one was around the time I mean people left on their own with no accountability whatsoever. Living in communities provides social pressure to do the right thing, and that's A good thing

[mountainman]

Bowhunting is/should be, a close range sport. When i take my bow to the feild, it is for the challenge. Getting in close, not seeing how far i can shoot. I desire the memory of the hunt more then a head on the wall...just my opinion...

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

Bowhunting is/should be, a close range sport. When i take my bow to the feild, it is for the challenge. Getting in close, not seeing how far i can shoot. I desire the memory of the hunt more then a head on the wall...just my opinion...

the only issue with your assumption is that you assume all longer shots required less hunting, I have killed bucks from 70 yrds that I stalked from over 600 in open country.... 70 in that terrain and situation was as tough to get too as 15 on elk or deer in certain terrains/cover... not all things are equal. My elk at 94.. I literally ran out of cover... so as much as I like 15-50 yrds.... I prefer meat in my freezer so I took a shot I kn ow I can make and I did.... I feel no more like a hunter when I shoot something under 10 yrds then when I do at 60+. 

[Jonathan_S]

Bowhunting is/should be, a close range sport. When i take my bow to the feild, it is for the challenge. Getting in close, not seeing how far i can shoot. I desire the memory of the hunt more then a head on the wall...just my opinion...

the only issue with your assumption is that you assume all longer shots required less hunting, I have killed bucks from 70 yrds that I stalked from over 600 in open country.... 70 in that terrain and situation was as tough to get too as 15 on elk or deer in certain terrains/cover... not all things are equal. My elk at 94.. I literally ran out of cover... so as much as I like 15-50 yrds.... I prefer meat in my freezer so I took a shot I kn ow I can make and I did.... I feel no more like a hunter when I shoot something under 10 yrds then when I do at 60+. 

Yup.  I shot a buck at 50 yards that was more of a challenge than a bull at 8 ft.  The bull was dumb luck but it was within spitting distance.

[mountainman]

Bowhunting is/should be, a close range sport. When i take my bow to the feild, it is for the challenge. Getting in close, not seeing how far i can shoot. I desire the memory of the hunt more then a head on the wall...just my opinion...

the only issue with your assumption is that you assume all longer shots required less hunting, I have killed bucks from 70 yrds that I stalked from over 600 in open country.... 70 in that terrain and situation was as tough to get too as 15 on elk or deer in certain terrains/cover... not all things are equal. My elk at 94.. I literally ran out of cover... so as much as I like 15-50 yrds.... I prefer meat in my freezer so I took a shot I kn ow I can make and I did.... I feel no more like a hunter when I shoot something under 10 yrds then when I do at 60+. 

Yup.  I shot a buck at 50 yards that was more of a challenge than a bull at 8 ft.  The bull was dumb luck but it was within spitting distance.

dont get me wrong. I agree, to a point. But I see a trend, here in type, and in the field, of some who actually promote the "long range" shot on game. The ones who can consistently paper plate it at long range (100+) shooting. Too many variables, formost being time of flight.. no matter how you slice it, it is always a low percentge shot.

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

oddly enough all my long range stuff has been clean kills, the few I have lost have all been closer shots.... take that anyway you choose.

[Odell]

Bowhunting is/should be, a close range sport. When i take my bow to the feild, it is for the challenge. Getting in close, not seeing how far i can shoot. I desire the memory of the hunt more then a head on the wall...just my opinion...

the only issue with your assumption is that you assume all longer shots required less hunting, I have killed bucks from 70 yrds that I stalked from over 600 in open country.... 70 in that terrain and situation was as tough to get too as 15 on elk or deer in certain terrains/cover... not all things are equal. My elk at 94.. I literally ran out of cover... so as much as I like 15-50 yrds.... I prefer meat in my freezer so I took a shot I kn ow I can make and I did.... I feel no more like a hunter when I shoot something under 10 yrds then when I do at 60+. 

Yup.  I shot a buck at 50 yards that was more of a challenge than a bull at 8 ft.  The bull was dumb luck but it was within spitting distance.

dont get me wrong. I agree, to a point. But I see a trend, here in type, and in the field, of some who actually promote the "long range" shot on game. The ones who can consistently paper plate it at long range (100+) shooting. Too many variables, formost being time of flight.. no matter how you slice it, it is always a low percentge shot.

Agreed. Ultimately we are weighing probabilities with the decision of life and death in the balance. Bad shots can happen at 8 yards and 80 yards but the probability for something going wrong increases with every yard. I know some on here have great skill with a bow. But no matter how good your skills are, physics take over and you are losing velocity rapidly. I have yet to meet someone with the skill of knowing with certainty if that animal is going to take a step.

[mountainman]

Bowhunting is/should be, a close range sport. When i take my bow to the feild, it is for the challenge. Getting in close, not seeing how far i can shoot. I desire the memory of the hunt more then a head on the wall...just my opinion...

well said..

the only issue with your assumption is that you assume all longer shots required less hunting, I have killed bucks from 70 yrds that I stalked from over 600 in open country.... 70 in that terrain and situation was as tough to get too as 15 on elk or deer in certain terrains/cover... not all things are equal. My elk at 94.. I literally ran out of cover... so as much as I like 15-50 yrds.... I prefer meat in my freezer so I took a shot I kn ow I can make and I did.... I feel no more like a hunter when I shoot something under 10 yrds then when I do at 60+. 

Yup.  I shot a buck at 50 yards that was more of a challenge than a bull at 8 ft.  The bull was dumb luck but it was within spitting distance.

dont get me wrong. I agree, to a point. But I see a trend, here in type, and in the field, of some who actually promote the "long range" shot on game. The ones who can consistently paper plate it at long range (100+) shooting. Too many variables, formost being time of flight.. no matter how you slice it, it is always a low percentge shot.

Agreed. Ultimately we are weighing probabilities with the decision of life and death in the balance. Bad shots can happen at 8 yards and 80 yards but the probability for something going wrong increases with every yard. I know some on here have great skill with a bow. But no matter how good your skills are, physics take over and you are losing velocity rapidly. I have yet to meet someone with the skill of knowing with certainty if that animal is going to take a step.

[Vo2max]

My site tape says I can shoot out to 120yds!