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Not everyone in the woods is hunting, or for that matter training, with a turtle. A vest on a fast moving pointing dog busting through brush is something of a bad joke. Trying to stop it on command when it's 500-1000 yards in front of you is even more problematic. They don't run close, that's not how they are wired or work most effectively.If a person can't tell the difference between a hunting dog and a wolf, let alone a malamute and a wolf, they have no business hunting.
No there are plenty of would be poachers down here as well but blaming the dog owner for the actions of a poacher is about the dumbest thing I've read all week.
Quote from: mfswallace on May 22, 2015, 10:40:20 PMI agree, this article is pathetic. :')The only thing pathetic about this is that a kid was told by his father to shoot without properly identifying their target and even worse out of season. I understand people don't like wolves but the guy who's dog was just shot is right too many people with blind hatred for the wolves and blatant disregard of the law. None of us has to like the wolves but at least idaho is doing the best they can to manage them, too many more stories like this just add fuel to the anti hunters fire
I agree, this article is pathetic. :')
Pathetic.http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/may/22/dog-mistaken-wolf-shot-and-killed-man-north-idaho/A North Idaho man said his dog was shot on a Forest Service road last weekend by a teen who mistook the husky-malamute cross for a wolf.The dog later died. The same bullet struck Jim Rosauer’s second dog, which survived.“We saw both of our dogs drop to the ground. It was just shocking,” said Rosauer, who lives near Eastport, Idaho.Rosauer said he and his wife, Lisa, were hiking Sunday afternoon on the snow-covered road to Spruce Lake, which is near the Montana border. The dogs had run ahead of them.“We saw the people about 180 yards away with a gun,” said Rosauer, who described them as a couple with their 19-year-old son. “The man said to me, ‘Sorry. It’s my fault. I told him (the son) to shoot the wolf.’”Boundary County Sheriff Greg Sprungl confirmed that the shooting is under investigation, but said no charges have been filed. The sheriff’s department is working with the Idaho Department of Fish and Game on the investigation.Dogs are sometimes mistaken for wolves, said Chip Corsi, Fish and Game’s regional supervisor in Coeur d’Alene. Several years ago, a wolf hunter brought an animal to a check station that was actually a dog.Corsi said he couldn’t comment on the recent incident, since it’s still under investigation. However, “people need to know what they’re shooting at, and they need to be hunting legally,” he said.Idaho’s wolf season on federal lands closed March 31. Hunters face fines of up to $1,000 if convicted of attempting to take a game animal during a closed season.Rosauer, a 50-year-old log furniture maker, said he feels compelled to speak out about the incident. He’s an elk hunter who supports public hunting of wolves, but said the “reckless disregard” for safety and flouting of hunting laws appalled him.Kenai, the dog that was killed, weighed 65 pounds and had some wolf-like features. But unlike a wolf, she had an ear that flopped down and a curly tail, Rosauer said. She was with the couple’s other dog, a lab-malamute mix.“He doesn’t look anything like a wolf,” Rosauer said, “but that’s not even the point. There is no gray area here. The season was closed.”Shooting into a roadway also endangered him and his wife, Rosauer said. They were a short distance behind the dogs.Rosauer said the couple and their son stopped to apologize and helped him load the dogs into his vehicle. Kenai died in a Sandpoint veternarian’s office; her shoulder was shattered. The bullet struck the other dog in the leg, but it’s recovering.Anti-wolf feeling runs high in Boundary County, where vehicles sport bumperstickers that say “Canadian wolves, smoke a pack a day.” Rosauer said that type of sentiment encourages people to act lawlessly.“We’re teaching people to have zero respect for the animals. I don’t remember growing up like that,” he said. “Where are our hunting ethics? You don’t have to like wolves, but I think they should be treated with respect as a game animal and a creature of this planet.”Rosauer said he still feels raw over Kenai’s loss.“This is a sad story, but I want it to be an educational one for people,” he said. “I’d like to see the culture change.”
Quote from: AspenBud on May 26, 2015, 06:19:41 PMNot everyone in the woods is hunting, or for that matter training, with a turtle. A vest on a fast moving pointing dog busting through brush is something of a bad joke. Trying to stop it on command when it's 500-1000 yards in front of you is even more problematic. They don't run close, that's not how they are wired or work most effectively.If a person can't tell the difference between a hunting dog and a wolf, let alone a malamute and a wolf, they have no business hunting. True, but most fast moving bird dogs busting brush look nothing like a wolf...and they're in the brush making them hard to shoot All the dogs shot (mistaking for a wolf) that I've seen are slow moving malamute/Husky/Shepard type dogs. A vest wouldn't hurt a thing on those dogs, and could benefit it greatly since those types of dogs will likely try to protect the owner from a wolf even if the wolf is really just after the dog. A bright hog dog type vest might save a malamutes life from both wolves and people. Don't give people an opportunity to mess up, if you have a dog resembling a wolf and run it off leash put a bright vest on it. Don't pick mushrooms during bear season in a black trench coat.
Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on May 26, 2015, 06:40:45 PMNo there are plenty of would be poachers down here as well but blaming the dog owner for the actions of a poacher is about the dumbest thing I've read all week.i didnt blame the dog owner for the guy shooting what he thought was a wolf i blame the dog owner for taking a wolf looking dog into wolf country and letting it run ahead of them off leash.
Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on May 26, 2015, 05:38:25 PMQuote from: mfswallace on May 22, 2015, 10:40:20 PMI agree, this article is pathetic. :')The only thing pathetic about this is that a kid was told by his father to shoot without properly identifying their target and even worse out of season. I understand people don't like wolves but the guy who's dog was just shot is right too many people with blind hatred for the wolves and blatant disregard of the law. None of us has to like the wolves but at least idaho is doing the best they can to manage them, too many more stories like this just add fuel to the anti hunters fireMy point was this is completely one sided. I think what the dad and son were doing in the woods and what they thought when they saw a very wolf like animal in wolf country matter and should have been written into article, responsible journalism that's all...
do they look like wolves?!
The shooter is probably lucky his target ended up being a dog instead of a wolf since the season was closed for wolves. I imagine the charges he will face will be much lighter for shooting a dog instead of if he poached a wolf.I do hope he gets some serious punishment though. Stories like this are going to make it impossible to get a wolf hunting season in this state. It's all going to be ammunition for the pro-wolfers to use to keep the wolves protected.
