Dog, mistaken for wolf, shot and killed by teenager in North Idaho

[stevemiller]

i dont understand this 

[andrew_in_idaho]

Let's get this thread moved to the hunting dogs section

[stevemiller]

steve you should step back from this thread, you're not accomplishing anything good for yourself or the thread.

The rest of your buddies here are though right?Getting tired of you mods always singleing out certain people.I thought that was against forum rules.

[stevemiller]

Let's get this thread moved to the hunting dogs section

The reason the hunting dog got brought into this thread is because some are giving reasons for a dog to be away from the owner,Some feel as much as over a half mile is acceptable on public land.This is another reason some of these pets are mistakenly being shot,Some feel that an orange vest would help,I agree,

[deltaops]

Sport Dog Tech 2.0

 GPS Tracking and lets you know when your dog is on point!

 One of the reasons why someone may let a dog get out a ways from them.  Just Sayin!

I knew this might come up lol.Isnt it illegal to hunt with these gps trackers?If the dog is on point that tracker is being used for hunting right?

I was just stating that the yhave them. I really do not know if its legal or illegal in WA State, but I wasn't referring to a particular State. We are taling about a dog being shot cause someone thought it was a wolf in Idaho.

Anyways, I have a black and white Field Springer, depending on where we go, depends on what color collar and or vest he wears.

[stevemiller]

Not everyone in the woods is hunting, or for that matter training, with a turtle. A vest on a fast moving pointing dog busting through brush is something of a bad joke. Trying to stop it on command when it's 500-1000 yards in front of you is even more problematic. They don't run close, that's not how they are wired or work most effectively.

If a person can't tell the difference between a hunting dog and a wolf, let alone a malamute and a wolf, they have no business hunting.

Why exactly would they be running 500 to 1000 yards in front of you?In WA.?

I think this quote (regarding English Pointers) from another forum sums it up...

"Pointers, especially trial bred pointers, are EXPECTED to hunt independently, at distances exceeding gun range.  They can be cuddle bugs at home, but also can be somewhat aloof.  But in the field, they are hunting machines, first and last. It is what they do. It is what they are.

If that ain't what you want, don't get a Pointer.  It's just that simple."

I know of several people who hunt chukar that like dogs to run at that range and I know of many who are willing to let their dogs stretch the distance in the woods going after grouse as well.

Was just rereading through some of this thread saw this.A little out of range it says.Do you consider 950 yards only a little out of range?

[stevemiller]

Sport Dog Tech 2.0

 GPS Tracking and lets you know when your dog is on point!

 One of the reasons why someone may let a dog get out a ways from them.  Just Sayin!

I knew this might come up lol.Isnt it illegal to hunt with these gps trackers?If the dog is on point that tracker is being used for hunting right?

I was just stating that the yhave them. I really do not know if its legal or illegal in WA State, but I wasn't referring to a particular State. We are taling about a dog being shot cause someone thought it was a wolf in Idaho.

Anyways, I have a black and white Field Springer, depending on where we go, depends on what color collar and or vest he wears.

they work great for locating i agree.i think the range for most good ones is 500 yards.they might have some high dollar ones that will go 1000 not sure.

[WA hunter14]

alot of gps tracking systems go miles, but that point feature isnt so reliable. mine says dog is on point all the time when he is not... wich is good because he isnt a bird dog. it also says treed anytime he is sitting.

[stevemiller]

 

[JLS]

Steve, it's obvious that you don't know how pointers work. Are you just arguing for fun?

No I am not.    what are pointers for?Birds. OK can you see your dog point at over a half mile away no can you shoot a bird at over a half mile away ? No you can not. so who is arguing?

You WALK over to the dog that is pointing the bird, flush it and shoot it.  How hard is it?  My dog routinely works 2-500 yards out chukar hunting.

[stevemiller]

nope you cant but you can or should at least ban it from a group.No one said anything about 2=500 were talking 500 to 1000 want to retract your statement or are you referring to yourself with your post?

[JLS]

I'm not retracting anything.  I'll just let you continue to pointlessly argue things that you don't have any understanding or comprehension of, like shooting birds from 1/2 mile away while the dog is on point.  And, FYI, a good dog WILL hold those birds on point while you get there.

[WA hunter14]

i dont really see how this got on birddogs, i have never seen a bird dog in a place i would consider wolf country. The only birds there would be to hunt is grouse and very few people use a dog for that, none i have ever met. every weekend i take my dogs out into prime wolf country off leash and run them miles, but i am in my pickup right behind them     and they look nothing like wolves and are wearing bright neon collars.

[stevemiller]

Not everyone in the woods is hunting, or for that matter training, with a turtle. A vest on a fast moving pointing dog busting through brush is something of a bad joke. Trying to stop it on command when it's 500-1000 yards in front of you is even more problematic. They don't run close, that's not how they are wired or work most effectively.

If a person can't tell the difference between a hunting dog and a wolf, let alone a malamute and a wolf, they have no business hunting.

this is where.

[WA hunter14]

Not everyone in the woods is hunting, or for that matter training, with a turtle. A vest on a fast moving pointing dog busting through brush is something of a bad joke. Trying to stop it on command when it's 500-1000 yards in front of you is even more problematic. They don't run close, that's not how they are wired or work most effectively.

If a person can't tell the difference between a hunting dog and a wolf, let alone a malamute and a wolf, they have no business hunting.

this is where.

well i think a bird dog chasing birds is like the least likely situation where a dog in the woods would be mistaken for a wolf and shot