Changes you would like to see in the big game drawings

[trophyhunt]

After almost two pages it seems most are in agreement that the OIL tags should be bought first before being able to apply.  Probably going to be one of the opinions given at this point.  I also like the Idea of not giving out the ghost points option on hunts, if you don't apply you don't get the point.

[mp.hunter]

Danderson/ great post. My dad is in this spot as he has 17 points for quality elk and just got diagnosed with cancer. He is physically unable to hunt this year and might not ever be able to again. What a shame he most likely never get the chance to hunt Bulls in a quality hunt. I agree with that as well having a category for older/ higher point guys. Maybe a good compromise for not making a minimum in other categories


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[daddyelk]

It would be nice if you could gift your special permit tag if drawn to a family member. For example a grampa giving his tag to his grandson/granddaughter.

[mp.hunter]

Danderson/ great post. My dad is in this spot as he has 17 points for quality elk and just got diagnosed with cancer. He is physically unable to hunt this year and might not ever be able to again. What a shame he most likely never get the chance to hunt Bulls in a quality hunt. I agree with that as well having a category for older/ higher point guys. Maybe a good compromise for not making a minimum in other categories


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[andrew_in_idaho]

Drop the license purchase requirement to apply!

I see this alot and I know people who buy tags for their wives that don't hunt and have never held a gun. But somehow they sure tag out every year. Somehow this needs to stop and people need to take a little more responsibility for doing what's right and not be so greedy.

If they "tag out every year" they are purchasing licenses every year, apples and oranges.

I would be fine with it if they were the ones hunting and or applying. But when some guys wife shoots a mule deer in Ellensburg while his wife is actually at work in bellevue.... Thats just not right

 I agree 100%, but again that's a completely different topic.

I used that as an example of how it's unfair to be putting in for hunting tags or points when you aren't even eligible to own a hunting license

 You can't put in for "tags" without a license, and the points are only for moose, goat and sheep. Without the current rule, non residents would then be required to purchase a license in order to apply for those 3, that is the reason behind it.

I pay non resident prices for all my tags in other states

  And if non residents draw a permit here, they pay for their out of state tag too. They just don't need to pay for the license up front to apply.

 At least in some other states, you don't draw you get your money back.

Let's knock some of those non residents out of the pool and make the ones who stick around contribute to our WDFW, and our states conservation efforts for a few years before giving them one of our OIL or quality tags.

 No argument there, what I'd really like to see is all applications start at $50.00/ea, moose, sheep and goat $100.00/ea, all non refundable.

 License and tags must also be purchased up front when applying, then refunded if not drawn.

Just thought I would point out non resident special permit apps already are 110.50 each. Those are the most expensive points out there especially when you consider that you also have to buy a tag before applying for deer and elk. I would put in if application prices were reasonable and I wasn't required to buy the tags up front. I still have a lot of points from before I moved down here

[trophyhunt]

Never been in the situation w a loved one, but terminally ill people get tags don't they? 

[mp.hunter]

I tried the terminally ill stuff for him but thank god he is not qualified. Perhaps if it came down to it I will try for him again later.


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[Halo]

One problem with the upcoming draws I see is that non-resident youth can apply for Washington OIL species for $3.80 per application and $57 for the tag if drawn and Washington has no non-resident quota guaranteeing any resident tags. With that info being pushed by "The Huntin Fool" and probably other publications I think we will see a large number of non-resident youth applicants. Nothing against the non-resident youth but I think a majority of our resident youth, and likely some "non-youth" will be getting edged out of the numbers game by the non-resident masses. I cant think of any other states that don't have a non-resident quota or are as generous with youth OIL tags.

[wapiti hunter2]

My biggest beef is that the Washington system takes until June to complete the draws. I would like to see it completed by the end of February or even January. Other western states do it, why  not Washington. It is very difficult to plan on an OIL hunt with only two months notice. It is even hard to plan any hunt with that kind of notice.

[skidynastar33]

Only allowed to put in for 1 option. No 2nd 3rd or 4th choices

[huntnphool]

I would also like to see points passed on to one designated family members through a will should someone die. Designated Wild ID must be set up in advance. This, of course, is completely unacceptable to the "where's mine" and "all about me or nobody" members on this site.

[bobcat]

I would also like to see points passed on to one designated family members through a will should someone die. Designated Wild ID must be set up in advance. This, of course, is completely unacceptable to the "where's mine" and "all about me or nobody" members on this site.

  

That would not be fair. What about people who don't have anyone to transfer their points to? Not only that, it would just unnecessarily complicate the system. Have you ever heard of any other states doing this? I can't imagine any other change that I would be more opposed to than this. A young hunter just starting out doesn't deserve to have a lot of points just given to him. They need to be earned.

[adamR]

I would also like to see points passed on to one designated family members through a will should someone die. Designated Wild ID must be set up in advance. This, of course, is completely unacceptable to the "where's mine" and "all about me or nobody" members on this site.

I like this, only if it is in a will, to one person, and only after the gifter has passed...

Why does it always have to come down to money?  I say it every year, just because some of you are apparently well off and could afford to pay more per application or fund every oil hunt before you get drawn doesn't mean the average hunter could.  So because I have a kid and one on the way and don't have a ton of extra money lying around I don't deserve to draw an OIL hunt?  If I get drawn I will come up with the money but I can't just let the state borrow $1000 every spring until I find out I didn't get drawn.

Huntnphool you mentioned the "wheres mine" and "all about me or nobody" members, that's a two way street.  Those of you that aren't happy with the fairest system available only complain because you haven't been drawn but it is the fairest system possible! Get over it! 

The only change I would really be ok with is limiting every draw to two choices like quality is now.  This would drastically increase odds across that board.

[Bigshooter]

Tag quotas for nonresident oil tags.
10 year wait after drawing a quality deer or elk tag.
5 Year wait after drawing a buck or bull tag.
1 year wait after drawing an anterless tag.
oil tag money up front when you apply, resident and nonresident.
Nonresidents buy a license when applying instead of buying a tag.  Only buy tag if drawn.  Quota on nonresident tags.
Unable to draw multiple tags the same year.

[idahohuntr]

I have a change I would like to propose...it involves me actually seeing a "Selected" on the screen