Washington’s wolf experience unlike rest of the West

[mfswallace]

Here is a stupid question that has been ringing around in my head;

I haven't gotten myself to read the whole wolf plan, so I just don't know these answers.  Thought I would try and cheat by asking here!

You don't need to read all of the info presented on wolves, that's how idahohunter does it and he knows everything 

Could you please take your personal attacks elsewhere.  Thanks.

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No attack, it's more of a humorous interpretation of fact as admitted by you. Sorry if it hit home but you did criticize a Ph.D. and admit to not reading his  article. I realize you are newly indoctrinated into the world of biology and "wildlife" managers but I believe Dr. Charles Kay has a vast amount of real world experience and a lot of in the "arena" years on you so when you show your lack of true understanding and hypocrisy as related to your signature I find it funny!!

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[mountainman]

Here is a stupid question that has been ringing around in my head;

I haven't gotten myself to read the whole wolf plan, so I just don't know these answers.  Thought I would try and cheat by asking here!

You don't need to read all of the info presented on wolves, that's how idahohunter does it and he knows everything 

Could you please take your personal attacks elsewhere.  Thanks.

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No attack, it's more of a humorous interpretation of fact as admitted by you. Sorry if it hit home but you did criticize a Ph.D. and admit to not reading his  article. I realize you are newly indoctrinated into the world of biology and "wildlife" managers but I believe Dr. Charles Kay has a vast amount of real world experience and a lot of in the "arena" years on you so when you show your lack of true understanding and hypocrisy as related to your signature I find it funny!!

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[pianoman9701]

Guys, guys, let's not start spreading facts around. 

[mfswallace]

Here is a stupid question that has been ringing around in my head;

I haven't gotten myself to read the whole wolf plan, so I just don't know these answers.  Thought I would try and cheat by asking here!

You don't need to read all of the info presented on wolves, that's how idahohunter does it and he knows everything 

Could you please take your personal attacks elsewhere.  Thanks.

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No attack, it's more of a humorous interpretation of fact as admitted by you. Sorry if it hit home but you did criticize a Ph.D. and admit to not reading his  article. I realize you are newly indoctrinated into the world of biology and "wildlife" managers but I believe Dr. Charles Kay has a vast amount of real world experience and a lot of in the "arena" years on you so when you show your lack of true understanding and hypocrisy as related to your signature I find it funny!!

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I wish I could find it funny  I'm really think he is a lib just trolling us. There is no way a person that is a sportsman and has done any research could possibly show so much ignorance on the subject.

I think wolfbait found some info that's pertinent to your insight---

Wolves are not all over Utah, Colorado and other southern states because of rancher mandated killing? 

Wyoming "stuck to its guns" in classifying wolves as a predator so they can be shot on sight unlike Idaho and Montana which 'caved'? 

Maybe there was something useful in the article, but I stopped reading after 2 paragraphs when it became clear that the author was clueless about wolves and wolf management in the West.

Busted! Paid Government Shill Exposes The Whole Operation!

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[jasnt]

Here is a stupid question that has been ringing around in my head;

I haven't gotten myself to read the whole wolf plan, so I just don't know these answers.  Thought I would try and cheat by asking here!

You don't need to read all of the info presented on wolves, that's how idahohunter does it and he knows everything 

Could you please take your personal attacks elsewhere.  Thanks.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

No attack, it's more of a humorous interpretation of fact as admitted by you. Sorry if it hit home but you did criticize a Ph.D. and admit to not reading his  article. I realize you are newly indoctrinated into the world of biology and "wildlife" managers but I believe Dr. Charles Kay has a vast amount of real world experience and a lot of in the "arena" years on you so when you show your lack of true understanding and hypocrisy as related to your signature I find it funny!!

Sent from my middle finger using hunt and pecktype

I wish I could find it funny  I'm really think he is a lib just trolling us. There is no way a person that is a sportsman and has done any research could possibly show so much ignorance on the subject.

I think wolfbait found some info that's pertinent to your insight---

Wolves are not all over Utah, Colorado and other southern states because of rancher mandated killing? 

Wyoming "stuck to its guns" in classifying wolves as a predator so they can be shot on sight unlike Idaho and Montana which 'caved'? 

Maybe there was something useful in the article, but I stopped reading after 2 paragraphs when it became clear that the author was clueless about wolves and wolf management in the West.

Busted! Paid Government Shill Exposes The Whole Operation!

   
Makes me wonder how many trolls we have here!

[idahohuntr]

 

I thought we were well past the "he must not be a hunter" crap.  I guess not.

[jasnt]

No one said in this thread that your not a hunter?

[Bob33]

No one said in this thread that your not a hunter?

it's been implied.
"I'm really think he is a lib just trolling us. There is no way a person that is a sportsman and has done any research could possibly show so much ignorance on the subject."

Knock it off.

[jasnt]

Here is a stupid question that has been ringing around in my head;

Does the WDFW wolf plan address the fact that two of the three recovery zones are basically surrounded by a giant moat?  I know some of the north cascade population is obviously going to come down naturally from Canada.  But how does the plan adjust for the speed in which the NE zone must expand before enough wolves swim the moat and then breed to acceptable levels in the south cascades and to an extent the north cascades?  When I think of Washington's Wolf Experience being Unlike the Rest of the West I have to believe that the Columbia River posses a challenge to the efficiency of balance and distribution of breeding pairs unmatched by other western states.

I haven't gotten myself to read the whole wolf plan, so I just don't know these answers.  Thought I would try and cheat by asking here!

you bring up a very interesting point!  And to answer you question no it does not.  The wolf plan is only half a plan really and needs revised badly!

[Duckslayer89]

Here's where the "balance" will come in: 

When wolves outnumber deer and elk, we will switch over to wolf hunting every year and deer/elk hunting will possibly be a once in a lifetime tag.

And the wolves will be forced to eat domestic livestock more often than wild game.

No worries, there will always be something to hunt in this state. 

That actually made me feel good reading that. When all the buffalo are gone, we will hunt mice, because we are hunters

[KFhunter]

I'm certainly not advocating that we partake in illegal activities and I won't. But, we need to stay on our elected officials about this. Make sure they know what's been going on and how the Wildlife Commission and WDFW have been transforming over the years.

Certainly, if a season doesn't appear, some will take management into their own hands. It's a shame that we even have to consider it. If things continue in this direction, I may have to move to another state. It's starting to feel like the writing's on the wall for hunting in WA. 

evolving your position?