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Full size 9mm
« on: June 07, 2015, 11:47:38 PM »
Please chat with me about your experiences with any pistols that meet my description to follow.  I'm shopping for a pistol with a crisp, consistent SA trigger.  I'm fine with a safety, which is really whatcha get with a good pistol trigger it seems.  My current pistol has a safety and I'm confident with it...just don't like my spungy trigger.  I prefer a capacity around 15 rounds. 

I lean towards CZ with those call-outs.  With less capacity I was looking at the BHP and A 9mm 1911 but I'd like more in MY mag.  I really like the P226 but don;t like the Sig DA.  Also don;t like the 2 pc grips on the Sig SA.

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 07:05:36 AM »
A CZ taken to someone who knows how to work on them would be a good choice.  The weight of a CZ is real nice in recoil.  Have you ever shot a Glock 34 with a trigger done by someone who knew what they were doing?  A custom STI 2011 would certainly fit what you are looking for plus you can load long and very, very hot.  You could buy an off-the-shelf- STI in 9mm too but a full-on custom (done right) will run circles around it. 

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 08:33:54 AM »
I do not know how it is done, call Champion Arms in Seattle, but I have seen 9 mm 1911 that held lots of rounds.
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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2015, 09:00:44 AM »
GLock – 17, 19 or 26 -

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2015, 09:32:50 AM »
A 17 or 17L with a decent trigger is pretty capable. ( I hate Glocks, but carry one BTW)

The CZ is a great value

The STI's are extremely well made and are essentially a custom hi cap 1911. We are an STI dealer and have one in stock.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/4179831/tacoma-washington-handguns-for-sale--sti-tactical-ds-4-0-9mm   Shameless plug :chuckle:




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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2015, 09:35:28 AM »
    I have an xd that I really like.  then I got a subcompact that I like more.  now am thinking about a single stack.    mike w

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2015, 09:37:26 AM »
Take a look at the Smith and Wesson m&p 9mms.

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2015, 12:24:23 PM »
I had one and did not like it so traded it for a sub xd.  but that is just me.  mike w

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2015, 02:13:08 PM »
Even though you said there were things you didn't care for about the Sig 226 but if I was looking for a full size 9, the 226 would be my first choice.  Others are good too but I've never had a Sig I didn't like.

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2015, 03:08:25 PM »
The CZ while it is a DA/SA has a nice trigger on it.  Maybe look at the SP0 and tactical variants...

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2015, 11:45:36 PM »
Thnx fellas.  I used to shoot a glock but it had a factory trigger.  I like the idea of a CZ cocked and locked.  I've researched STI  a bit so I'll look into them more.  FWIW, at that price tag, I might do the P226. 

I'm thinking STI, Para (Black Ops recon?), CZ, or Sig. 

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2015, 07:14:32 AM »
Out of those choices an STI with a trigger job from someone who knows what they are doing is going to give you the best trigger, mine is just under 2lbs.  A stock STI trigger isn't great at all unless you are comparing it to a factory plastic gun.  There are quite a few places to send a CZ to people who know what they are doing and they shoot very nice.  Gray's Guns is well known as the Sig master, I haven't shot one enough to form an opinion other then there are better options then Sig's. 

I still think that a Glock with a non-factory trigger will surprise a lot of people.  If you shot a Glock 17/19 or something like that you shot with a terrible trigger.  A Glock 34 has a better trigger but is still bad.  A Glock with a trigger done by someone who knows what they are doing and how to do it is a very capable pistol, all for $400.  In fact it is the pistol that is by far the easiest to get to being acceptable out of the box of all of them.  My G34 has about a 2.5 lb trigger, is plenty accurate, and magazines are 20 bucks.     

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2015, 07:16:30 AM »
One more thing, STI's factory magazines are notorious for being horrible.  The mags have seemed to get better recently but I would buy "tuned" mags which will run $130 to $150. 

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2015, 11:52:54 AM »
Thnx fellas.  I used to shoot a glock but it had a factory trigger.  I like the idea of a CZ cocked and locked.  I've researched STI  a bit so I'll look into them more.  FWIW, at that price tag, I might do the P226. 

I'm thinking STI, Para (Black Ops recon?), CZ, or Sig.

Ill say +1 for the Glock 34. Even the factory 34 trigger is better than the standard Glocks. if you want crisp trigger 1911's are always a good option. if money is no question check out the Sig 226 X-Five. its about $3000 but you get a SA trigger with LOTS of 9mm fun.  :chuckle:
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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2015, 04:52:54 PM »
I looked into the BHP pretty seriously but it's listed on the website as 10 rd capacity??

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2015, 06:56:25 PM »
I looked into the BHP pretty seriously but it's listed on the website as 10 rd capacity??

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2015, 07:53:15 PM »
Beretta M9/92FS.  I like the M9 because it has the flat dustcover of the older 92-series pistols, before the frame was modified for the .40 round.  It's got a safety, and 15rd factory mags.  I've had a couple, they all ran flawlessly.  Down to just the M9 at the moment.  It isn't leaving.
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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2015, 09:33:20 PM »
In my past I have shot a full mag through one ragged 2" hole at about 40 feet with the P226, the M9, and a tricked out Dan Wesson 1911.  I'm a pretty good shot, I fair about that well with other guns, but I remember that M9 session for sure.  I don;t like that safety though.  So, I'm gonna think on the P226 more.  All your suggestions are gonna get some thinkin actually.

Please post a link that verifies the 13 or 15 round capacity on the BHP, and if htere's a shop that you can recommend for glock work that would be great too.  My father in law just bought a 19 so it will at least benefit him.

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2015, 12:05:02 AM »
I read the fine print on the BHP.  13 rd's in 9mm.  I'd still love some feedback on good shops that do Glock work.

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2015, 06:20:23 AM »
Try these two if you want to buy a new trigger:
http://glocktriggers.com/products/
http://vanekcustom.com/

Or, search for the "25 cent trigger job" if you want to go at it yourself. 

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2015, 12:15:08 PM »
I read the fine print on the BHP.  13 rd's in 9mm.  I'd still love some feedback on good shops that do Glock work.

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2015, 09:23:12 AM »
Get a 5" STI 9mm 1911 and be happy with 10rds.
There is no comparison with any of the plastic fantastics listed above.
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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2015, 05:24:43 PM »
I would try the M&P.  I had no idea about them and was issued one at work.  I consistently qualify 96 to 97% with it.  I was very surprised.  With a Glock I shot lower scores.  I'm a 1911 guy by choice but the M&P surprised me by how well it shoots.
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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2015, 08:29:41 PM »
RG, are your duty pistols stock M&P's?  Factory triggers? 

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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2015, 08:44:46 PM »
Get a 5" STI 9mm 1911 and be happy with 10rds.
There is no comparison with any of the plastic fantastics listed above.
Seriously.

The STI 2011's are worth a look  :chuckle:


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Re: Full size 9mm
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2015, 09:04:41 AM »
I would try the M&P.  I had no idea about them and was issued one at work.  I consistently qualify 96 to 97% with it.  I was very surprised.  With a Glock I shot lower scores.  I'm a 1911 guy by choice but the M&P surprised me by how well it shoots.

RG, are your duty pistols stock M&P's?  Factory triggers? 

I also carry an M&P at work (.40), stock trigger, stock sights, it points really well. The trigger however is not very crisp, same thing goes for my CC (M&P compact .40), and the reset is nonexistant. I've heard that the newer M&P's have a more tangible reset, but I have not fired a newer M&P.

I like my Glock 17 and 19 better, and shoot better with both of them (marginally) than my duty pistol and CC pistol. The M&P's however have a much more ergonomical grip and fit my hand better than a Glock.

So I hope that is as clear as mud for you  :tup: You really gotta go out and shoot some guns and find out what fits you best!
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