Author Topic: Montana Unit 270 (Read 16564 times)

Wea300mag · « **on:** January 07, 2009, 04:30:32 PM »

I'm not sure if these pics have been on here before, but this is what you are looking for if you get lucky enough to get drawn for 270 in MT. Don't know who the hunter is, just received the pics in an email.

agchawk · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:37:28 PM »

Good timing. This same buck is also on the Boone and Crockett Trophy Watch page. They just posted an update to the photo. This is what they have:

UPDATE: Received word the buck scores 198 gross B&C and was taken by Matt Ekstrom in 2006 from Somewhere, MT. Buck is not listed in B&C records as officially scored and entered.

Man, that is one GREAT buck!

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:39:06 PM »

Way cool. Have you hunted 270 before? I know it's the holy grail to draw for MT.

boneaddict · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:39:49 PM »

I need to go photograph there. I'll never draw it.

NRA4LIFE · « **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:42:26 PM »

Yup, it's about a 1 in 58 draw in 2007. I'll stick to Unit 7.

87samurai · « **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:42:46 PM »

Wow what a pig!

WDFW-SUX · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:43:04 PM »

1/58.............childsplay

huntnphool · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:43:09 PM »

Definitely a toad

boneaddict · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:45:19 PM »

1/58 AFTER it takes you 5 years to draw Montana deer in the first place. Then how exactly do you have points for their special draw, if you can't even put in for them anyway.

(asa non resident)

WDFW-SUX · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:46:08 PM »

Ive always wondered how that workd?

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:15:52 PM »

1/58 with no way to get prefrence points

...makes the "anger sharks" swim in my head...

I DID read somewhere though that as 270 becomes more and more popular they will start managing other Mule Deer units the same way (at least that's the plan). The management of 270 as a trophy unit is fairly new. The way i understand it, 270 was Montana's test-effort to start making the state a top mulie destination again, like Idaho is doing with unit 45. Trying to create something like the Arizona Strip. Looks like it's working. Hopefully they will get on the ball and start adding units soon...

boneaddict · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:17:07 PM »

Just means there will be more of Montana that we can't hunt

huntnphool · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:29:55 PM »

Quote from: Pathfinder101 on January 07, 2009, 06:15:52 PM

I DID read somewhere though that as 270 becomes more and more popular they will start managing other Mule Deer units the same way (at least that's the plan). The management of 270 as a trophy unit is fairly new. The way i understand it, 270 was Montana's test-effort to start making the state a top mulie destination again, like Idaho is doing with unit 45. Trying to create something like the Arizona Strip. Looks like it's working. Hopefully they will get on the ball and start adding units soon...

Go figure!!! I have sent several emails to Washington F&W about this and suggested they try this in some of the Methow units. EVERY TIME I recieved a reply saying "it doesn't work"

They told me that if they did make it a 4 point restriction in some units then only mature bucks would be harvested and they dont want that. The point is there would be more mature bucks, as Montana and Idaho are finding out.

WDFW-SUX · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:36:19 PM »

Our fish and game is second only to California's Department of Fish and Mammals in there incompetence.

Red Dawg · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:36:33 PM »

look what happened to the wenas. It was a trophy bench unit and then they opened it for general because they thought it was a migratory unit. Well the were wrong and there was a massacre. There was a dead buck hanging in every tree at cascade park and a lot of them were very nice bucks.

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:41:13 PM »

Those retards. If it "doesn't work" then why are 10 gazillion people putting in for Desert A every year? It's the only unit in the state that is managed for trophy mulies and look at the bucks that come out of there. If they manage a few more units that way then the whole state wouldn't be trying to put in for one flippin' unit.

Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon etc... all manage wildlife. Washington manages hunters...

lemondog · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2009, 07:00:09 PM »

Right on! I have been saying that for a while now.....there comes a point where there are too many hunters to provide any quality at all without changing strategies. Throw in a bad winter.......or.......wolves......and were screwed.

archery288 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:21:22 PM »

I just read on Bowsite that apparently the pictures of that buck state it was taken in 2005. It appears a couple of the guys know him on Bowsite... Still a monster though!

WDFW Hates ME!!! · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:40:29 PM »

From what i read today is that if you apply for montana and don't draw you can still put in for a point??? Not sure? Maybe i read it wrong.

huntnphool · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:44:26 PM »

Quote from: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 07, 2009, 08:40:29 PM

From what i read today is that if you apply for montana and don't draw you can still put in for a point??? Not sure? Maybe i read it wrong.

You send in your money plus $20.00 for a bonus point, if you dont draw you get your money back minus the $20.00 and now have one point plus how ever many years you have done this.

WDFW Hates ME!!! · « **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:44:48 PM »

All nonresidents who are unsuccessful in the nonresident
combination license drawing are mailed a form that must be
returned if they wish to accumulate bonus points for special
deer and elk permits. If you did not receive this form and wish
to participate in the bonus point system, please contact FWP at
406-444-2950.

WDFW Hates ME!!! · « **Reply #21 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:46:49 PM »

huntnphool what i was refering to was how you get points for the special permits if you don't draw the combo tag.

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 07, 2009, 09:42:32 PM »

good info to know. thanx

Ridgerunner · « **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2009, 09:54:29 PM »

Awesome buck, all I want is one like that(well ok that's not true, at least one like that, LOL).

boneaddict · « **Reply #24 on:** January 07, 2009, 10:00:17 PM »

he would look good next to the moose,
(the one in my living room, not yours,

GWA Hunter · « **Reply #25 on:** January 07, 2009, 11:16:10 PM »

Wow that's a PIG...I wasn't jealous until I heard it scored more then my elk I didnt shoot this year

fc2038 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 08, 2009, 11:00:44 AM »

Wow what a great buck. Boy he is laid out!

woodywsu · « **Reply #27 on:** January 08, 2009, 11:26:44 AM »

I got an email saying it is 41" wide

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 08, 2009, 09:27:55 PM »

He's a great buck, but I don't know if he's 41". I've seen a 40" buck, and he looked like a comic book character.

boneaddict · « **Reply #29 on:** January 09, 2009, 05:55:48 AM »

I don't think he is near 41.

Hornseeker · « **Reply #30 on:** January 09, 2009, 07:44:32 AM »

The buck was killed by Matt Ekstrom in 05 or 06'...cant remember.. he's about 31 inches wide.. he grosses in the upper 190's, but nets not too good...

That unit SUCKS now... I know a guy that is a hardcore git r dun hunter that drew the tag this year. HuntPhool and Ray and the boys saw just as good a bucks in eastern MT as this guy saw in 29 days in 270. The quality fell bad.. they doubled the permits the last two years... *censored*ty deal.... it was our "one" unit that you could bank on seeing some BIG deer in... now you can go see 160-175 bucks.. .real lucky if you see bigger...

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 09, 2009, 10:31:36 PM »

I'm gonna take a stab at a theory here on 270 (this is the first time I have heard anything bad about it, but this is the first I have heard from someone who hunted it last year). Last winter was really, really, really, long. I know here in Eastern WA we had to cancel our shed hunting camp twice because it kept snowing in April. I heard MT had a similar winter. Not piles and piles of snow like we are getting this year, but it just wouldn't go away.
That HAD to play hell on the older age class mulies. Any chance that is what affected 270 this last season?

ipkus · « **Reply #32 on:** January 13, 2009, 02:51:58 PM »

Quote from: Pathfinder101 on January 09, 2009, 10:31:36 PM

Any chance that is what affected 270 this last season?

Partially...maybe.

Having hunted it recently (with a friend who drew) and in getting to know a few locals from there that spend a ton of time in the hills, I think 270 became a victim of its own celebrity.

With the reputation comes increased pressure...and poaching. 270 is a huge unit, and enforcement is lacking in Montana just like it is in most states these days.

Combine all of that with the huge tracts of private 'refuge' that border the unit, and it's definitely no longer the unit it was a few years ago.

I don't think this is the first unit to go through this in the West, and it most certainly won't be the last.

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 13, 2009, 09:42:44 PM »

Well, that makes sense. Maybe a couple of years of crappy reviews, people will stop putting in for it, population can rebuild, and we can run through the whole cycle again..

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