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Time from draw until release
« on: June 24, 2015, 04:03:33 PM »
Just curious, when you guys are practicing about how long does it take from the time you draw until release?  I haven't actually measured myself but lately I feel like I'm getting sloooow.  For example, it takes a second to get my target in the site window, a second to make sure my bow is plumb, another second or two to settle the pin where I want it...

I dunno...  If  you guys are trying to shoot for accuracy over speed how long do you take typically?

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 04:12:06 PM »
I'd say that is about right. For practice I'll sometimes hold.....get on target....hold and let me eye relax and then get back in focus, aim, fire.

Here is an older vid when I first got my bow and was playing with the GoPro and seeing what things looked like while filming.



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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2015, 04:18:26 PM »
Often when shooting in practice it seems like it takes forever to level the bow and settle the pin.

In the field I always feel like I can do no wrong and it takes .5 seconds to get a good shot off.  Yes, yes I know delusions of grandeur  :chuckle:  especially when I liver shoot a bull at a few feet  :yike:

I'd say after I get the anchor point set it takes me about 3 seconds to squeeze the trigger.
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2015, 04:59:05 PM »
Thanks guys!  Cool video H20.

In the field I always feel like I can do no wrong and it takes .5 seconds to get a good shot off.  Yes, yes I know delusions of grandeur  :chuckle:  especially when I liver shoot a bull at a few feet  :yike:


And yeah, that's why I asked about practicing and not real life or death scenarios!  When it's for real I become one with the bow, time slows down and I don't even realize I have shot until I see the arrow flying over the back of whatever creature it is I am after!

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2015, 07:17:14 PM »
When I'm on a 3-D course I shoot like a snail.  Seems I get take extra time to settle in relax and make a pure shot.  When I'm hunting I don't realize how long it takes me to shoot it just happens before I even know what's going on.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2015, 09:31:31 PM »
My I'd takes about one second ! It's off and running. Practice both and drawing early and holding .

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2015, 10:06:51 PM »
IMO trying to time yourself and be as fast as possible can eventually lead to target panic. And that can be very hard to recover from. I think the best thing is to shoot a ton and worry about proper bow fit, form and release. It may seem slow now, but when everything is engrained into your subconscious and the moment of truth comes, it will all happen automatically and will be much quicker and accurate than trying to force the shot to happen quickly. :twocents:
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2015, 06:19:29 AM »
IMO trying to time yourself and be as fast as possible can eventually lead to target panic. And that can be very hard to recover from. I think the best thing is to shoot a ton and worry about proper bow fit, form and release. It may seem slow now, but when everything is engrained into your subconscious and the moment of truth comes, it will all happen automatically and will be much quicker and accurate than trying to force the shot to happen quickly. :twocents:
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2015, 06:44:49 AM »
shoot a pop up 3d and you will get a idea of your speed .

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2015, 07:00:32 AM »
shoot a pop up 3d and you will get a idea of your speed .

That would give me target panic for sure  :chuckle:
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2015, 07:05:36 AM »
Depends on if my finger is in front of or behind the trigger release :chuckle:

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2015, 07:06:06 AM »
shoot a pop up 3d and you will get a idea of your speed .

you will also get target panic so bad you'll hate archery!

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2015, 10:22:20 AM »
Probably like 10-15 seconds if I'm just shooting. I find if I hold to long I start over thinking everything. Thats just me though. If I have to hold while hunting I'm distracted by the deer to than really over thinking my form.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2015, 12:48:16 PM »
IMO trying to time yourself and be as fast as possible can eventually lead to target panic. And that can be very hard to recover from. I think the best thing is to shoot a ton and worry about proper bow fit, form and release. It may seem slow now, but when everything is engrained into your subconscious and the moment of truth comes, it will all happen automatically and will be much quicker and accurate than trying to force the shot to happen quickly. :twocents:



THIS!  this guys knows his stuff..... if you have to make a shot happen in 2 sec or less its not a shot worth taking imo....  when I was competing alot my shot sequence was 13-14 seconds.... every time.... im not much faster hunting and never have had a issue filling my tags.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2015, 01:11:17 PM »
My I'd takes about one second ! It's off and running. Practice both and drawing early and holding .


Coach is slow compared to his kid though!   Grip and Rip It can send some arrows downrange fast!

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2015, 01:38:01 PM »
If I rush the shot it's 5 seconds. I practice holding the shot as long as I can. Acquire  the target within 2 seconds and then I hold on target for at least 10 seconds before I release.

If you don't practice holding your draw on target what will you do when that bull steps behind a tree?

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2015, 01:51:34 PM »
If I rush the shot it's 5 seconds. I practice holding the shot as long as I can. Acquire  the target within 2 seconds and then I hold on target for at least 10 seconds before I release.

If you don't practice holding your draw on target what will you do when that bull steps behind a tree?

Difference in practicing for a particular situation (bull behind tree) vs running your normal shot. As soon as I get to anchor it takes anywhere from 3-5 seconds for me to get my shot off. Five seconds is a loose guess, as the arrow is either away by then or my pin starts to shake something awful and I let down.
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2015, 02:16:12 PM »
I've recently begun to release fast due to my right eye's declining eyesight and the tendency of my left eye to want to take over. I haven't noticed with the the tendency of target panic but can see the opportunity for that exists if there's pressure on you to release quickly.
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2015, 09:56:34 AM »
Here lately I have been practicing both the long hold and the quick release. I found I could do the long hold pretty well as it plays well into my OCD of trying to be ultra accurate. I am constantly aiming trying to get the shot locked in. Recently I started doing a few sets at 40 yards with a release within 2 seconds of draw. It was hard at first to shoot that fast but the accuracy really wasn't bad. A paper plate at 40 yards make me happy.

I don't know many drills to prepare for real hunting situations so I make things up to help prepare. If anyone has any good "real world" drills I would love to hear them.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2015, 10:05:03 AM »
For sure. I think the best thing you can do is practice in a 3d range in the woods. You can practice your sneak....do a little jog...pull up and let one fly. Yeah...you may look a little goofy sneaking around your range but if you have a place to do so, go for it.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2015, 12:58:12 PM »
For sure. I think the best thing you can do is practice in a 3d range in the woods. You can practice your sneak....do a little jog...pull up and let one fly. Yeah...you may look a little goofy sneaking around your range but if you have a place to do so, go for it.

Great Idea!  Gonna give your system a go.

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I already practice with the gloves I hunt with and I shoot from all positions possible, kneeling, sitting, crouched and standing and from tree stand and my ground blind. How long it takes to get a shot off depends on position, takes me longer to get on target when sitting or kneeling.
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2015, 01:19:38 PM »
Great point when you speak of shooting in different positions. I started practicing it and found kneeling on one knee was the hardest. My center of gravity is much different and awkward. Kneeling on both knees is much easier. I also have been practicing facing North (for instance) and rotating the upper body 90 degrees. I find this position to be harder to hold on target as there seems to be less support from the shoulder/upper arm on my bow arm. Makes the day at the range more fun and interesting by trying all these things.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2015, 01:27:54 PM »
For sure. I think the best thing you can do is practice in a 3d range in the woods. You can practice your sneak....do a little jog...pull up and let one fly. Yeah...you may look a little goofy sneaking around your range but if you have a place to do so, go for it.

Great Idea!  Gonna give your system a go.

Only have one neighbor anywhere near me and they already think i'm a couple of tacos short of a combo plate already  :tup:
I already practice with the gloves I hunt with and I shoot from all positions possible, kneeling, sitting, crouched and standing and from tree stand and my ground blind. How long it takes to get a shot off depends on position, takes me longer to get on target when sitting or kneeling.
Nice job on shooting with the gloves on.  The month before the season I start shooting in my hunting gear with my pack on so there are no surprises when I get to the field, everything still feels the same.  A pack can really change how things feel when you start shooting from off positions.
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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2015, 02:16:05 PM »
For sure. I think the best thing you can do is practice in a 3d range in the woods. You can practice your sneak....do a little jog...pull up and let one fly. Yeah...you may look a little goofy sneaking around your range but if you have a place to do so, go for it.

Great Idea!  Gonna give your system a go.

Only have one neighbor anywhere near me and they already think i'm a couple of tacos short of a combo plate already  :tup:
I already practice with the gloves I hunt with and I shoot from all positions possible, kneeling, sitting, crouched and standing and from tree stand and my ground blind. How long it takes to get a shot off depends on position, takes me longer to get on target when sitting or kneeling.
great point, even just moving at all.  Important part of practicing for hunting is learning to shoot from those odd stances, kneeling, sitting, stopping in off-balance position etc.  One think I love about being able to shoot in my backyard, I have trees and brush around, some I have to shoot under on every shot, others I can move behind and draw while moving and take shot as soon as I have a clear target.

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Re: Time from draw until release
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2015, 04:05:47 PM »
Got to giving the question some thought. 
Maybe I am wrong on this idea, but when putting an arrow into game, the closer you are, the less percise you need to be allowing for a faster release.
I know my sight alignment can afford to be a tiny bit sloppier at 15 or 20 yds and still get a good dbl lung shot.  Provided my form stays consistent.
I don't have to put my arrow through a life saver to get the results I want at short range.
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