Doesn't a 45/70 have way more penetrations then a Beowulf .50 ? I saw a frind shoot a big cow elk in the shoulder from 60 yards away and it barely went through the first shoulder blade. It was a hollow point. It ran and it took 28° to find it. Not a good day and bad feeling for both of us becouse i was the one that said it would b good out to 70 yards.