Tipi for Hunting & Family Backpacking Trips

[adamR]

Hoping for some insight on a couple of different product decisions.

My family (wife, 2 kids, 2 large dogs) and I want to start backpacking more. We currently camp out of a travel trailer but want to start camping out of a tent setup after hiking into a lake or some other similar backdrop. On the hunting side of this, I would also really like a small tipi for 1 to 3 people with a stove.

After doing a ton of research, I think I'm leaning towards a Seek Outside Redcliff with a full nest for summer camping with the family and the same tipi, minus the nest, with an Argali Skyline stove for 1 - 3 guys during hunting season.

For those that have actual experience:
- Is the Redcliff with a full nest going to be big enough for all of us during the summer months?
- Is the Redcliff with a stove big enough for three guys but not so large that it would be ridiculous to pack it in for one guy?
- Anyone have any experience with the Redcliff, good or bad, that they want to share?
- And with the Argali stove, any experience one way or another?

Thanks in advance!

[92xj]

Redcliff will work for 4 and 2 dogs summer camping.
It will also be good for 3 men and stove.
Solo, that would be a hard no for me, it's too big.  I take my Cimarron solo and its almost too big, but the weight penalty is not that drastic.   I have had three men in my Cimarron and that works well for non stove needed camping. 
If you can afford it, get two setups, the Redcliff for the family summer and multi men winter camping and the Cimarron or something else this size or smaller for solo.  I'd hate to carry the Redcliff on a solo hunt.  It just takes up more pack space and a little more weight, and that would annoy me personally. If you can only do one for all three scenarios, the Redcliff will work.

[adamR]

I'll probably stick with just the one this year, but I have also been tossing around the idea of purchasing an Argali Rincon (2-person), or maybe the Cimarron (4-person) hybrid pyramid/tipi style tent in the future. I'd be using the Redcliff for one person for a year or two and then maybe by another set up for just myself down the road if it seems necessary.

[Stein]

I love lots of stuff Argali does, I have a teepee and love it.  I didn't buy their stove because it's expensive and harder to set up than the one I got which has simple levers that hold it together and no nuts to lose or threaded rods to get frustrated over.

[PacificNWhunter]

If you’re in a position to buy now call them now. They are selling factory seconds right now. They come with a full warranty. But they are quite a bit cheaper. No experience with that tent but have the twilight and it’s a top quality.

I got a Peax stove and it’s legit to set up. No loose parts but may be too small to heat that.

[Fastass350]

I bought the Argali stove and used it for a week at lake Sonoma about a month ago. Yeah it has wing nuts that could be a pain in the cold with gloves, but that doesn’t deter me. Only complaint I had was the sliding door, the slides need to be longer so the door doesn’t fall off when opened all the way. I believe they are working on a remedy to come out this fall.  I found a plain old tent stake was a great tool for opening and closing the door.
My buddy had a Peak, it worked well but he had trouble with draft. We burned Madrone mainly with some fir and I could get 4-5 hrs of sleep, wake up and shove it full, wait 5-10 and close it and be good til morning. I’m very happy with it.