Wait Period

[grundy53]

I've had my CPL for 25 years and have always left with my purchase the same day.
It's worth getting.

I've had mine for 15 years and have been delayed every time but once..... Pistol and rifle.... And my name is not common where I might be confused with someone else. 

I have the same problem.

[Bob33]

I've never had to come back to a store when purchasing a firearm - long gun or handgun, with one exception. I had to come back last summer to pick up my firearm  when the NICS system was down nationwide.

[grundy53]

I think that of all the guns I've purchase in my life I've been put on a hold all but two of them. Literally only twice have I walked out of the store with the gun the same day. I need a UPIN.

[HighlandLofts]

I think that of all the guns I've purchase in my life I've been put on a hold all but two of them. Literally only twice have I walked out of the store with the gun the same day. I need a UPIN.

The numbers to call for a UPIN Application are:
1-877-324-6427
304-625-0535


Here is thier web site:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/appeals/nics-appeals-process/nics-appeal-frequently-asked-questions


When you call they get the application right out in the mail.
They will send you the application along with a finger print card, I went to the Arlington Ploice Department to have them done. The cost was $10 for them to do the finger prints. They only do them a couple times a week I can't remember what days they do them. You police department will be different and maybe they'll do them for free.
Fill out the application and mail it to them. It took three months and four days to get my UPIN number from the day I mailed out the completed application. The UPIN was free other then the $10 for the finger print card to be done.

I just put the numbers & letters in the UPIN box on the NICS Form and tell the clerk that you have a UPIN Number. They have to let the people at the NICS place know that you have the UPIN Number. They do the first part of the NICS Check then they get put on hold for a few moments for further review. When the second person from NICS gets back on the phone you'll get your procced.

When ever they do the NICS Check electronically I've been delayed, When they call it in I got 100% PROCEED.

I buy a lot of guns and I have them call the NICS Check in when ever I buy a gun anymore. If they don't want to call it in, I'll skip on buying what ever gun they have that I was interested in.
 Been there, Done that.

If you have any questions about the UPIN stuff feel free to send me a PM and I'll answer your questions. I've had my UPIN NUmber for over a year and have bought atleast forty guns since I recieved it.

Cabelas is the only place that wants to actualy see the form from the FBI with your UPIN Number. All of the other places I just put the number in the box and tell them about it.
I keep a copy of my UPIN in the car and I keep a copy of it in the truck just in case I stop by Cabela's and see a used gun that I want to buy.
I also have a Class 3 FFL License, C&R Permit. I keep a couple copies of this permit in the car & truck as well. You never know when you'll run across a C&R gun you might want to buy.
The C&R Permit is a whole other thread, if any one's interested about information on this let's open a C&R Permit thread.

[grundy53]

I think that of all the guns I've purchase in my life I've been put on a hold all but two of them. Literally only twice have I walked out of the store with the gun the same day. I need a UPIN.

The numbers to call for a UPIN Application are:
1-877-324-6427
304-625-0535


Here is thier web site:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/appeals/nics-appeals-process/nics-appeal-frequently-asked-questions


When you call they get the application right out in the mail.
They will send you the application along with a finger print card, I went to the Arlington Ploice Department to have them done. The cost was $10 for them to do the finger prints. They only do them a couple times a week I can't remember what days they do them. You police department will be different and maybe they'll do them for free.
Fill out the application and mail it to them. It took three months and four days to get my UPIN number from the day I mailed out the completed application. The UPIN was free other then the $10 for the finger print card to be done.

I just put the numbers & letters in the UPIN box on the NICS Form and tell the clerk that you have a UPIN Number. They have to let the people at the NICS place know that you have the UPIN Number. They do the first part of the NICS Check then they get put on hold for a few moments for further review. When the second person from NICS gets back on the phone you'll get your procced.

When ever they do the NICS Check electronically I've been delayed, When they call it in I got 100% PROCEED.

I buy a lot of guns and I have them call the NICS Check in when ever I buy a gun anymore. If they don't want to call it in, I'll skip on buying what ever gun they have that I was interested in.
 Been there, Done that.

If you have any questions about the UPIN stuff feel free to send me a PM and I'll answer your questions. I've had my UPIN NUmber for over a year and have bought atleast forty guns since I recieved it.

Cabelas is the only place that wants to actualy see the form from the FBI with your UPIN Number. All of the other places I just put the number in the box and tell them about it.
I keep a copy of my UPIN in the car and I keep a copy of it in the truck just in case I stop by Cabela's and see a used gun that I want to buy.
I also have a Class 3 FFL License, C&R Permit. I keep a couple copies of this permit in the car & truck as well. You never know when you'll run across a C&R gun you might want to buy.
The C&R Permit is a whole other thread, if any one's interested about information on this let's open a C&R Permit thread.

Thank you.

[baldopepper]

Well, went into Sportsman today and was told it appears South sound 911 (who actually does the paperwork not Tacoma PD) had apparently lost the paperwork.  Their 30 day hold was off on the gun so it had been put back on the shelf.  I had to redo the paperwork, but at least the store said they would honor the sales price and resubmit.  Store manager told me he would personally check if nothing came thru in the next 10 days.  Not sure why they wouldn't call and let me know that the 30 hold was off and the gun was going back on the rack. Guess it's better than nothing, but overall I can't say I'm impressed with the customer service in this situation.  Glad I didn't buy a gun I was intending to go hunting with a month or so before the season.  Not sure if this is SOP for the store or not, but don't think I'd chance it with another gun purchase there.  Hopefully I can pick up in the next couple of weeks and the ordeal will be done with.

[GrainfedMuley]

I still don't understand if the store does an instant Federal check, who the hell is south sound 911 and what do they have to do with a federal check. Unless they feel left out. If that is the case it is a bit redundant to run two checks.

[Blacktail Sniper]

I believe here in Washington, if it is a long gun, then that is all that is needed, but I recall reading somewhere (maybe on here) that handgun sales are also ran through the local law enforcement agency...

[baldopepper]

Guess I'm not totally sure how the system works, but I don't believe the store does any background check.  Paperwork is submitted to the LE in the county or municipality that you live in and they do the check and give final approval.  While a store does not legally have to wait , I think, after 10 days it is Sportsmans Warehouse policy to not release a gun without LE approval of the transaction.  They told me the initial paperwork expires after 30 days so I would have to resubmit.  My biggest complaint is why they couldn't call me at like the 28 or 29th day and let me know they had nothing back and they were placing the gun back on the rack. 

[GrainfedMuley]

I believe here in Washington, if it is a long gun, then that is all that is needed, but I recall reading somewhere (maybe on here) that handgun sales are also ran through the local law enforcement agency...

I did not realize that. I have never purchased a handgun over the counter and probably never will.

[GrainfedMuley]

Guess I'm not totally sure how the system works, but I don't believe the store does any background check.  Paperwork is submitted to the LE in the county or municipality that you live in and they do the check and give final approval.  While a store does not legally have to wait , I think, after 10 days it is Sportsmans Warehouse policy to not release a gun without LE approval of the transaction.  They told me the initial paperwork expires after 30 days so I would have to resubmit.  My biggest complaint is why they couldn't call me at like the 28 or 29th day and let me know they had nothing back and they were placing the gun back on the rack.

Then why do most independent gun shops and FFL holders at gun shows have the capability to do instant Federal checks without going through a local LEO?

[Blacktail Sniper]

I believe here in Washington, if it is a long gun, then that is all that is needed, but I recall reading somewhere (maybe on here) that handgun sales are also ran through the local law enforcement agency...

I am not 100% sure about this, so if somebody out there with more knowledge that knows for sure can chime, I am sure we would all appreciate it.






I did not realize that. I have never purchased a handgun over the counter and probably never will.

[baldopepper]

Guess I'm not totally sure how the system works, but I don't believe the store does any background check.  Paperwork is submitted to the LE in the county or municipality that you live in and they do the check and give final approval.  While a store does not legally have to wait , I think, after 10 days it is Sportsmans Warehouse policy to not release a gun without LE approval of the transaction.  They told me the initial paperwork expires after 30 days so I would have to resubmit.  My biggest complaint is why they couldn't call me at like the 28 or 29th day and let me know they had nothing back and they were placing the gun back on the rack.

I'm sure there's been threads on it, but I can't honestly say I'm sure how the system works.  Thought I knew enough to make a fairly simple purchase, but I guess not.






Then why do most independent gun shops and FFL holders at gun shows have the capability to do instant Federal checks without going through a local LEO?

[Blacktail Sniper]

Aren't they still required to do the 5 day hold unless the buyer has a CWP??

[pashok23]

Just purchased a Remington 700 in 300 win from Sportman warehouse few days ago and had no problem at all with transaction.
Checked my name,payed.And i was on my way