Sturgeon

[singleshot12]

Fish can die miles from a c&r area usually down stream. Your "so called facts" don't mean anymore to me than my opinion does to you. So we don't agree on what happened to these fish.what's the big deal? I'm not falling into this "know-it-all" game which is resulting in name calling. You might not be young punks but this conversation is getting way too juvinile for me.

[BLUEBULLS]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

LMAO! did I hit a nerve? Facts? What facts? Do sturgeon really show fresh hook wounds in their mouth? You must be a young punk or an extreme c&r advocate yahoo. If either which sounds like you are I won't waste anymore time with you......

The longer you run your mouth, the dumber you look.  Again, for the slow learners;

1.) No fishing is allowed right now where many of the oversize fish in each pool are located
2.) Fishing effort is low.
3.) They are not finding fresh hook wounds in the fish they are examining.
4.) Essentially all of the fish they are examining are chock full of sockeye.

These are called facts.  There is data and observations that proves them to be true.

YES, sturgeon that have been hooked with 8/0 and 9/0 hooks have wounds/scars in there lips, and YES you can tell if they are recent or older.

The more you type the more obvious it becomes that you don't know what the f you are talking about. 

Nobody is C&Ring 50-100 fish a day in the mid-Columbia.  I am not an 'extreme c&r advocate yahoo'.  I completely agree that they should close sturgeon fishing until they figure out what is going on.  C&R fishing does have stress and mortality associated with it, and anything they can do to protect the remaining spawner size fish should be done immediately.  That still doesn't mean that this die off is because of C&R fishing, because it's not.

There's an old saying that goes something like  '...better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it...'

Don't be a knucklehead.

 

[BLUEBULLS]

Fish can die miles from a c&r area usually down stream. Your "so called facts" don't mean anymore to me than my opinion does to you. So we don't agree on what happened to these fish.what's the big deal? I'm not falling into this "know-it-all" game which is resulting in name calling. You might not be young punks but this conversation is getting way too juvinile for me.
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[ipkus]

Fish can die miles from a c&r area usually down stream. Your "so called facts" don't mean anymore to me than my opinion does to you. So we don't agree on what happened to these fish.what's the big deal? I'm not falling into this "know-it-all" game which is resulting in name calling. You might not be young punks but this conversation is getting way too juvinile for me.

There's another saying; Ignorance is bliss.

Bye.

[dscubame]

Stugeon will be fine, relax already.  Normal off season crap.

[HunterStrait]

Saw three of them dead today from Columbia point to howard amon park. Two of them were about 10 feet in length.

I also saw a handful of dead suckers too.

[time2hunt]

Radiation poisoning from the Japan tsunami  the tribe  has been test fish in the ocean and the levels are high in the salmon .  It's been a pretty hush hush deal


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[magnus100]

Closed from Bonneville upstream now so I guess if the die off continues it must not be due to C & R? If die stops I will definitely believe C & R played a role....
Stupid is as stupid does.

[Gringo31]

This has me worried.  The areas I fish I've heard reports of it being just terrible.  I wanted to take my boat out yesterday just to look and see as I've been gone in Alaska.  I don't buy the C&R excuse.  Yes, it does have it's impact but this is something new...... something different from the norm and I don't feel a few degrees is the cause either.

[4fletch]

Radiation poisoning from the Japan tsunami  the tribe  has been test fish in the ocean and the levels are high in the salmon .  It's been a pretty hush hush deal


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last few years the sockeye run in Alaska has been lower than expected. The forecast if my memory recalls was 27 million and only 2.5 million showed up. Something's fishy. I hope it's not due to radiation

[rtspring]

This happens almost every year, I have spent alot of my life up and down the banks of the River. Since like 8 years old I always found alot of dead sturgeon.  I'm 42 now, hike around bateman island, you can always find 1-2 washed up on the bank. 

Not sure if the numbers of dead fish are up but maybe its just natures way of doing the dirty deed.  Lets hope so!

[Gringo31]

last few years the sockeye run in Alaska has been lower than expected. The forecast if my memory recalls was 27 million and only 2.5 million showed up. Something's fishy. I hope it's not due to radiation

Recent intel told me that in Bristol Bay the sockeye just didn't show up.  They had like 15% of the run and then it just tapered off.  Everyone left calling it a loss but 2 weeks later they came in full force.   

[grundy53]

My buddy just got back from the Kenai. He said the run was horrible and they were all undersized.

[singleshot12]

So what does that have to do with dead sturgeon on the Columbia

Back on topic: anyone hear of anymore dead sturgeon since the c&r closure?

[Jonathan_S]

Did somebody cut you off in traffic today singleshot12? 

People are linking Pacific Sockeye with the Sturgeon die out and they're talking about Sockeye runs...duh