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Obama admin looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns

President Barack Obama waves as he returns to the White House in Washington from a trip to New York, Saturday, July 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.

The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.

The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security, the LA Times reported.

If Social Security, which has never taken part in the background check system, uses the same standard as the Department of Veterans Affairs – which is the idea floated – then millions of beneficiaries could be affected, with about 4.2 million adults receiving monthly benefits that are managed by “representative payees.”

The latest move is part of the efforts by President Obama to strengthen gun control following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.

Critics are blasting the plan, saying that expanding the list of people who cannot own guns based on financial competence is wrongheaded.

The ban, they argue, would keep guns out of the hands of some dangerous people, but would also include people who simply have a bad memory or have a hard time balancing a checkbook.

The background check for gun ownership started in 1993 by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, named after White House Press Secretary James Brady, who was partially paralyzed after being shot in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.

Gun stores are required to run the names of potential buyers through a computerized system before every sale.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/20/obama-looks-to-ban-social-security-recipients-from-owning-guns/
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 07:21:09 AM »
The ban wouldn't keep the guns out of any dangerous person. Those people are called, criminals.
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 08:50:54 AM »
For those who really believe in the greater good-cause strategy:

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have ~Thomas Jefferson”

― Thomas Jefferson

« Last Edit: July 21, 2015, 10:49:24 AM by Kittman »

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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2015, 08:52:42 AM »
For those who really believe in the greater good-cause strategy:

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have ~Thomas Jefferson”

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Just what obama is trying to do and is succeeding slowly...... :bash:
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2015, 12:00:53 PM »
"immigrants in the United States illegally"

wouldn't it be much easier and shorter to simply say "illegal alien"?  :dunno:
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2015, 03:19:08 PM »
To someone who thinks we need the government running our lives, like my sister, this move would seem to make sense. He's sure crafty. I've got to give him that. :bash:
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 03:59:24 PM »
If they are deemed 'incapable of owning firearms' I wonder if that would also apply to voting? 

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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 04:58:47 PM »
Ummm.. how many shooting sprees has this group of people been responsible for??

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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 05:07:09 PM »
Ummm.. how many shooting sprees has this group of people been responsible for??

  Hello.... anyone home??  There is not a problem here!!  Keep out of our business.


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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2015, 05:09:51 PM »
I don't think of myself as a conspiracy theorist, or nut job... But I truly believe Sandy Hook didn't actually happen.  Am I out of bounds by thinking that? 

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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 05:12:11 PM »
I don't think of myself as a conspiracy theorist, or nut job... But I truly believe Sandy Hook didn't actually happen.  Am I out of bounds by thinking that?
Yes. :-\
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 05:14:18 PM »
I don't think of myself as a conspiracy theorist, or nut job... But I truly believe Sandy Hook didn't actually happen.  Am I out of bounds by thinking that?
Yes. :-\

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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2015, 05:41:31 PM »
I don't think of myself as a conspiracy theorist, or nut job... But I truly believe Sandy Hook didn't actually happen.  Am I out of bounds by thinking that?
Yes. :-\
No offense but do you have more to add than what has already been said on the Sandy Hook story?There is actually quite a large group that say they dont believe it.
You must first be honest with yourself,Until then your just lying to everyone.

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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2015, 07:48:02 PM »
Yes. The same group that believe in jet planes spraying the atmosphere.  :o
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Re: Obama looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2015, 07:54:25 PM »
When you believe in conspiracies there is no proof that can convince you otherwise. None.
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