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Offline elkchaser54

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2015, 07:18:52 PM »
http://union-bulletin.com/news/2015/jul/24/Fire-10-percent-contained/

The wind keeps blowing out of the South South West like they are calling for, the watershed is just fine.  Its just creeping more towards the dayton unit.

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2015, 09:16:50 PM »
I really don't want to see any structures burned but there's a lot of country up there that needs a fire.... the last 2 big ones were the best thing I've seen for wildlife up there in my lifetime. I wouldn't worry too much about east wenaha. That's a long ways away. It's actually a lot greener up there than it seems it should be.

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2015, 09:50:33 AM »
From talking with Bios this hunt is officially over!
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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2015, 10:08:20 AM »
From talking with Bios this hunt is officially over!

Bummer man, my bro has a muzzy in the west that were pretty much loosing all hope for...  how fukd... once in a lifetime tag down the toilet..  should honor these tags for the next years season... 
Their going down!!!

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2015, 10:11:57 AM »
From talking with Bios this hunt is officially over!

Bummer man, my bro has a muzzy in the west that were pretty much loosing all hope for...  how fukd... once in a lifetime tag down the toilet..  should honor these tags for the next years season...

That is EXACTLY my thoughts as well and yes I would still see it the same way if I didnt have the tag.
I just talked to the directors office and basically asked them whats taking so long to make a decision. He said meetings are happining as we speak about it. I also mentioned I didnt understand the hold up considering the OFGD made a decision on their Wenaha tag holders hunts several days ago. ( I dont think he liked my ?) :dunno:
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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2015, 10:17:40 AM »
From talking with Bios this hunt is officially over!

Bummer man, my bro has a muzzy in the west that were pretty much loosing all hope for...  how fukd... once in a lifetime tag down the toilet..  should honor these tags for the next years season...

That is EXACTLY my thoughts as well and yes I would still see it the same way if I didnt have the tag.
I just talked to the directors office and basically asked them whats taking so long to make a decision. He said meetings are happining as we speak about it. I also mentioned I didnt understand the hold up considering the OFGD made a decision on their Wenaha tag holders hunts several days ago. ( I dont think he liked my ?) :dunno:

You should at the very least be given your points back if they don't allow you to hunt. Just my opinion :dunno:

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2015, 10:31:56 AM »
I respectfully disagree on re-issue of tags. That would essentially postpone the draw for a full year, and WDFW would take a significant hit in applicant loss. And what about future catostrophic incidents? Is this the precedent we want to set?

It sucks. Personally I think the department should give an option for Governor type rules for apllicable tags until December 31st for the units that are shut down, Or return tag for points return.  :twocents:

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2015, 10:36:18 AM »
I respectfully disagree on re-issue of tags. That would essentially postpone the draw for a full year, and WDFW would take a significant hit in applicant loss. And what about future catostrophic incidents? Is this the precedent we want to set?

It sucks. Personally I think the department should give an option for Governor type rules for apllicable tags until December 31st for the units that are shut down, Or return tag for points return.  :twocents:

Thats exactly right it would post pone the draw for all of 6 people another year just like it has the 6 of us that drew the tag. ONLY we might have to wait who knows how many years to get lucky again. I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt they would take any hit in the applicants at all. Guys/gals would just do the points option or put in for a different unit.
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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2015, 11:12:42 AM »
I feel your pain man but as far as giving the tag holders the tag next year is not right. As bad as it is, it's Mother Nature doing her thing! what if a massive snow storm hit the blues (which is possible) and guys couldn't get to n.f or wilderness and it pushed the elk to private. Should a guy get the tag the next year if that happened?

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2015, 11:15:46 AM »
Allow folks to give up the tags if they want, restore their points, and go to the next name on the applicant list and offer them the tag? 

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2015, 11:22:47 AM »
Return the points or allow to hunt a later date would be fair. I'm sure other special permit tag holders in other parts of the state may have to deal with fires that possibly affected their permits. I don't see it as a fair solution to re-issue special permits due to this years issue. I personally drew a special permit for another area of the state and could easily been in the same situation. Sorry guys I really hopes your hunts workout for you.

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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2015, 11:38:03 AM »
Return the points or allow to hunt a later date would be fair. I'm sure other special permit tag holders in other parts of the state may have to deal with fires that possibly affected their permits. I don't see it as a fair solution to re-issue special permits due to this years issue. I personally drew a special permit for another area of the state and could easily been in the same situation. Sorry guys I really hopes your hunts workout for you.

Why not??? Everyone would know they cant draw one of the 6 Wenaha East tags so they put in for the points option only or a different unit.... Even if I wasnt a tag holder I would be fine with that. POINTS ONLY OPTION PLEASE!
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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2015, 11:42:53 AM »
I feel your pain man but as far as giving the tag holders the tag next year is not right. As bad as it is, it's Mother Nature doing her thing! what if a massive snow storm hit the blues (which is possible) and guys couldn't get to n.f or wilderness and it pushed the elk to private. Should a guy get the tag the next year if that happened?

REALLY???? WOW, lets stretch the scenario just a bit. YOU can hunt in snow, you CANT hunt if the entire unit is closed. The chances of getting snowed out of a September hunt or any hunt in the blues including the modern hunt is less than 5%. Hell my dad used to hunt up by godman in the late archery season in late November, never snowed out.
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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2015, 11:47:19 AM »
I have to say that I would be fine with letting the guys move their permits to next season. I don't see how it would cost the wdfw any money because all the guys who normally put in for there would just put in for somewhere else. It is already hard enough to draw a decent tag in the state so give the guys who were lucky enough to draw a chance to actually enjoy their luck.
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Re: Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2015, 11:54:43 AM »
Man I'm torn on this one but I am a proponent of reissue points or let the tag holders hunt later. This needs to stay within this season. I can see both sides of it but don't think it would be fair to the guy who is going to draw in 2016 get bumped then not be able to ever draw due to any number of reasons. :twocents:
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