Fires and Wenaha East Archery bull tag

[dreamingbig]

Is there any amount of rain that would make them change their mind on the closure?


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[cbond3318]

Is there any amount of rain that would make them change their mind on the closure?


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I think someone quoted 2" of rain is needed to re open in another thread. That is a fairly large number for the area.

[SkookumHntr]

They won't get 2" of rain by next march!!

[Lnk]

I feel your pain man but as far as giving the tag holders the tag next year is not right. As bad as it is, it's Mother Nature doing her thing! what if a massive snow storm hit the blues (which is possible) and guys couldn't get to n.f or wilderness and it pushed the elk to private. Should a guy get the tag the next year if that happened?

REALLY? WOW, lets stretch the scenario just a bit. YOU can hunt in snow, you CANT hunt if the entire unit is closed. The chances of getting snowed out of a
September hunt or any hunt in the blues including the modern hunt is less than 5%. Hell my dad used to hunt up by godman in the late archery season in late November, never snowed out.

beings u know percentage so well, what was the percentage east wenaha would get shut down for fire? Like I stated its Mother Nature doing her thing! Every body that puts in takes the chance of it shutting down

[Mxracer532]

Man I'm torn on this one but I am a proponent of reissue points or let the tag holders hunt later. This needs to stay within this season. I can see both sides of it but don't think it would be fair to the guy who is going to draw in 2016 get bumped then not be able to ever draw due to any number of reasons.

This is no different to us that have drawn this year. We get bumped then for whatever reason may never draw in our lifetime also.

[Mxracer532]

Is there any amount of rain that would make them change their mind on the closure?


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I think someone quoted 2" of rain is needed to re open in another thread. That is a fairly large number for the area.

Paul Wik the area bio told me this Monday. He said the Forest service had said they wont open till the area got 2" of rain.

[dreamingbig]

Have a chance... Pattern is shifting per weather forecast.  Some hope anyway!


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[Mxracer532]

I feel your pain man but as far as giving the tag holders the tag next year is not right. As bad as it is, it's Mother Nature doing her thing! what if a massive snow storm hit the blues (which is possible) and guys couldn't get to n.f or wilderness and it pushed the elk to private. Should a guy get the tag the next year if that happened?

REALLY? WOW, lets stretch the scenario just a bit. YOU can hunt in snow, you CANT hunt if the entire unit is closed. The chances of getting snowed out of a
September hunt or any hunt in the blues including the modern hunt is less than 5%. Hell my dad used to hunt up by godman in the late archery season in late November, never snowed out.

beings u know percentage so well, what was the percentage east wenaha would get shut down for fire? Like I stated its Mother Nature doing her thing! Every body that puts in takes the chance of it shutting down

A hell of alot more then being snowed out thats for damn sure. When has the area EVER been snowed out??? When was the last time the blues was effected by Lightning? 10 years ago! Regardless there is no reason the state couldnt grandfather these type of tags in a (mother nature) type of situation.

[Lnk]

Ok so u don't know. Anything is possible with Mother Nature and people should think of that when they apply! I'd b more than upset also man but think about this if u six guys got grandfathered in  for next year then there would b a 100 plus people next year pissed off that couldn't apply. Now which is the fair way

[Timberstalker]

So many arguments, so little time....

[Mxracer532]

Ok so u don't know. Anything is possible with Mother Nature and people should think of that when they apply! I'd b more than upset also man but think about this if u six guys got grandfathered in  for next year then there would b a 100 plus people next year pissed off that couldn't apply. Now which is the fair way

They can apply, FOR POINTS!!! Or for another unit. (I thought we are all sportsman) A true sportsman would understand the situation we unfortunatley got put in.  Reverse the rolls and anyone would feel the same way we as tag holders do right now.

[grundy53]

How about they let the permit holders have the permit next year AND still have the draw next year. That would only be 12 permits total and since there won't be any state hunter harvest during the season this year it shouldn't affect herd numbers terribly. Just a thought.

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[HUNT-HARD]

Luck of the draw man. There is no way WDFW would grandfather the six tag holders tags for next year. Just ask the Mt Adams Wilderness hunters from 2012 when they got shut out. You will be lucky if they give you your points back.

[Lnk]

Put in for points... Like u stated some people may not b able to keep putting in for points! Put in for another unit... Ok all that will do is make EVERYONE else's chances harder to draw any other unit in blues. If they didn't have a wilderness draw next year than that  would mean those 300 plus people would prolly try and draw another unit and everybody chance would go down. Doesn't seem fair to me but what do I no ur the sportman. Good luck

[BUTTER]

Question is are you going to put next season