Best small game arrow setup to keep in your quiver.

[GrampasGuns]

I'm starting to get my gear together for the archery opener. I know lots of guys run into grouse and the likes while archery hunting. I want a good small game head, one that will fit in my quiver(Mathews arrow web 6) will a judo point fit into the slot of the quiver? Is a field point not a good option for birds and rabbit? Thanks and cheers

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[dreamunelk]

Field point will just go through them.  They will fly/run away before they die.  Any blunt will work.  As for arrows.  They should be one you are willing to lose or break.   

[passing-thru]

I use judo point, and turn arrow around, putting nock in slot inside quiver head.

[MountainWalk]

Judo or a Bludgeon.

[GrampasGuns]

I've never used a judo point, does it destroy the meat? Looks pretty gnarly

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[RadSav]

I've never used a judo point, does it destroy the meat? Looks pretty gnarly

Not much meat loss with a Judo.  I always liked the Shocker 5 more than the Judo.  Springs seemed tougher on the Shocker.  Though now I carry the G5 S.G.H.  Still stops skips, way tougher and kills big rabbits rather than having them run off with $30 worth of point and arrow.  If the Bludeon would not skip it would be my #1, but I got tired of looking for my arrows.

One of these days I'll have to give the Easton V3 a try.

[KFhunter]

I had terrible luck with judo's and lost a bunch of arrows when I got into a mess of blue grouse over a 2-3 day period, they'd actually skip off the bird and go sailing if it wasn't a perfect center punch....then you had a heck of a mess.   Usually they'd duck the arrow then you skip it off it's back, puff of feathers and the bird goes airborne.

Got a bunch of G5's for this year's adventure, can't wait to try them out.



Post I made last year
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,160749.msg2120460.html#msg2120460

[kentrek]

The g5 is nice but expensive and brittle...if your not shooting a bunch and not worried about the cost they are awesome...but the claws will break

Made a 70 yard starling shot with the g5 

The plunger style ones are the cheapest but doesn't fly the same as field points...if it's under 30 yards and it's not super thick brush I like em

The judos are a nice mix between durable,accuracy, cost

Played with the condor heads aswell an they were just too brutal on game...seemed to really rip up the birds or rabbits but didn't provide the shock to kill them fast

[Instinct]

G5 sgh!

[earlmarne]

I like judo points.I have not really tried anything else but the judo points are cheap and dont bury underground as easy or skip.I run them on the same arrows I have broadheads on so the will hit with my pins

[huntingbaldguy]

Are those Vista small game adder points worth anything or the Snaro Bird Point? 

[RadSav]

Are those Vista small game adder points worth anything or the Snaro Bird Point?

Cool thing about E.W. Bateman's Adder Point is that you can use them one way for deeper penetration and the other way for more shock.  I've put a hurting on the Oregon sage rat population using those backward behind a steel blunt.   They don't bury under the grass as bad when applied backward either.  Though they do wear out faster that way.  I used to get them 500 at a time from Earl.  Was my "Go-To" small game point for many years!

Snaro points are ok if wing shooting quail, crows or starlings.  Haven't been pleased with them on anything of size.  Get the small ones if you are going to try them.  The big ones were worthless for me.

[sakoshooter]

Partner and I shot a few geese opening day of early goose a couple years ago with Judo pts. All we got was crippled geese as the springs folded back leaving a field pt hole. The ones that go on under your field pt do a lot more damage.

[RadSav]

Partner and I shot a few geese opening day of early goose a couple years ago with Judo pts. All we got was crippled geese as the springs folded back leaving a field pt hole. The ones that go on under your field pt do a lot more damage.

Broadheads only for geese!!

[JJ79]

I have some "hammer" heads for this year, hoping to see how well they do

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[JJ79]

I also purchased knock off toxics at $2 each, I'm planning on using those for small game

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[GoldTip]

None, if you keep a small game head in your quiver and you hunt long enough, trust me, in the heat of the moment one day you will find you have drawn the wrong arrow from the quiver.......

[RadSav]

I also purchased knock off toxics at $2 each, I'm planning on using those for small game

Now there is a good use of a Toxic!  Probably skips to beat heck, but should really hammer the bunnies and birds

I found an old stash of Bateman Adder points this week.  Sort of has me excited to drop a few plump grouse this year!  Been a good many years since I destroyed a grouse with Earl's great little gadget!

[JJ79]

I'm heading up hunting this weekend and there are always some grouse around. I'm hoping to snag a few while deer hunting. That's on of the best parts about archery hunting to me, basically no noise so if a deer were a couple hundred yards away they wouldn't hear it vs a rifle that can be heard from a long ways away

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[WSU]

Judos work.  I've also used old beat up arrows and broadheads I didn't care about losing.