Ya man after talking with Robert Bass today I had a way better feeling towards them as well. They really take the input seriously I think. You'll have to show me around Buckley gate sometime. I bought a muzzleloader today it's a Traditions Vortek Northwest Magnum. It's my first one do you guys muzzleload? I have a feeling they rut later up in Hancock. My neighbor swears around here they rut through middle of December but who knows haha! From the rumor I heard from a friend the guys that were nice and respectful to Clyde will get their permits back, and everyone who wasn't won't. But the manager I talked to said ya whoever got it taken away will be getting it back once they write their letter and send it in. He's even setting it up to where i can go pick it up so it won't take so long in the mail. Impressive.