Samish unit/ West 90. Is this the beginning of the end?

[Special T]

Well, one thing is for sure you can't please everybody. Pheasant hunting sites are a separate issue in my opinion. I have zero interest in hunting tame Chinese chickens. I don't disagree with you about some the blinds at Welts. Some of them hunt well, others aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell. Permanent blinds on public lands will always be a magnet for the slobs and the trash they leave behind.

I used to think that too. Last year was my first year hunting the release sites and I went to the Bow Hill location. I LOVED IT! I actually preferred it over Leque & Ebey Islands. I like E WA phesant hunting more but it was a nice mid week treat for a couple of hours.

I am an avid waterfowler and think the WWA Is a good Org. One thing that I will say is that We hunters will suffer from infighting. Have you ever hunted a release site? Which ones? Dont be so quick to strow stones at a potential allie. There are few of us as it is. We need to band together not tear each other apart.

[ghosthunter]

Well, one thing is for sure you can't please everybody. Pheasant hunting sites are a separate issue in my opinion. I have zero interest in hunting tame Chinese chickens. I don't disagree with you about some the blinds at Welts. Some of them hunt well, others aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell. Permanent blinds on public lands will always be a magnet for the slobs and the trash they leave behind.

I used to think that too. Last year was my first year hunting the release sites and I went to the Bow Hill location. I LOVED IT! I actually preferred it over Leque & Ebey Islands. I like E WA phesant hunting more but it was a nice mid week treat for a couple of hours.

I am an avid waterfowler and think the WWA Is a good Org. One thing that I will say is that We hunters will suffer from infighting. Have you ever hunted a release site? Which ones? Dont be so quick to strow stones at a potential allie. There are few of us as it is. We need to band together not tear each other apart.

Well said.

[ghosthunter]

Here's what happens.
A nice peice of public land comes along like Samish for duck hunting.
A few ponds are scooped out, some planks put over ditches for access and some barley plantd.
Nice.

Than we have to have blinds, and shell receptacles , the more you do to the property the trashier it gets. Why because you make it too easy.

The guys who don't want to get up before legal hours, the guys with no decoys,  the guys who won't put the effort foreword to hide themselves, who have never scouted before they show up there in the dark to hunt it.
The guys who don't care. You have attracted them and made it easy for them.

And before you know it you got nothing.

There are hundreds of examples of excellent hunting spots on private property around the area. No,blinds,no flood gates, just wet spots and the ducks are there.
The samish unit has been attracting ducks forever.
Just let it be.

[Stickerbush]

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[Special T]

Ghost have you ever hunted a place with assigned blinds? Ive hunted the refuge in toppenish, & ridgefeild and have say what a plesant experience it was. Not because the blinds were ideal but it kept some jack wagon from setting up in my back pocket. Permanate blinds imo does little when its a free for all and you dont have to use the. Im like you I prefer my own setup, but to me some one setup too close ruins an otherwise good hunt.

I have heard the the refuge on Sauvie Island in Portland is awesome and does a better job than the other 2.

I have a hunting partner who released birds for the wdfw. We had a really good discussion on this issue during the last season. Ebey could be the kind of show case for well managed multi use. Pheasant release hunting could be done as well as established blind duck hunting. With a little work it could be a great way for beginners to get some opportunity and draw/keep people in the sport.
We also talked about how the esa salmon restoration projects are not really accomplishing thier designed goal but rather turning land that needs management into less mgt.

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[ghosthunter]

I have hunted assigned blinds or you had to be in a established blind at Lake Terrel.

I have also hunted the Quality access hunts. Where you have to stay in a certain blind.

If they did that at Samish Half the folks that hunt there would be out. Wherever you hunt there will be crowding. I use to have a hunting partner which if someone crowded us he would walk over and let them know it.

There isn't enough room there for assigned blinds. During the late season there is a lot more water that can handle a lot more shooters. With assigned blinds that would be lost.

Waterfowl also keys on assigned blinds. And it eliminates your chance to adjust your location.

All of it comes with more regulation. They have a 15 shell limit at Samish and they cant enforce it.

[Special T]

I agree that they cannot enforce the 15 shell limit and its pathetic.  I think there isnt much that can be done about except more area... Like putting some of the pheasant release into areas like Bow hill.

I can honestly say that I reduced my duck hunting when i had people set up in my back pocket too often... I didnt confront jack wagons I packed up and went scouting or went home.

[NW-GSP]

After years of hunting public land I finally bought a boat for duck hunting this next season. So sick of sky busters and having to get up at 2 am for a public land duck blind.

[ghosthunter]

After years of hunting public land I finally bought a boat for duck hunting this next season. So sick of sky busters and having to get up at 2 am for a public land duck blind.

I too have a 16 ft boat and my buddy has a nice boat with blind so we go out in those on the lakes some.
But the dog likes the feed hunting the best.

[Special T]

Im pretty lucky. I have 2 buddies with boats and neither can call worth a damn, and they think Im a GOD when it comes to calling... (The reality is im only ok but dont tell them that or i might lose my open invitation!)

Its amazing when all the moons align for a perfect hunt... On  your first hunt with some one else with a boat! 

[ghosthunter]

Oh I cant call for nothing.

[Special T]

We should go duck hunting!

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[ghosthunter]

Thread Jack

Yeah we should. You wont like my boat. Maybe I get you in my buddies he doesn't call either.

I will work on it after elk season.