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This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« on: August 28, 2015, 01:12:49 PM »
I'm new to WA, so please bare with my stupid question.

If I get a tag for a deer, and catch another buck drinking out of my pond, which I have caught several...

Can I shoot said buck with a bow?

(I was embarassed to ask it, but couldn't find a cut and dry answer)
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 01:17:07 PM »
No, unless you have a second deer tag, because you applied and were drawn for it through the permit lottery, you can only shoot one deer.  You also have to choose your weapon type (modern, archery, muzzle) and can only use one weapon type for deer and hunt that weapon's seasons.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 01:17:50 PM »
I am not sure I understand the question so I will answer what I think the question is.
You can only harvest one legal deer per season, unless drawn for a 2nd deer permit.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2015, 01:18:52 PM »
No, unless you have a second deer tag, because you applied and were drawn for it through the permit lottery, you can only shoot one deer.  You also have to choose your weapon type (modern, archery, muzzle) and can only use one weapon type for deer and hunt that weapon's seasons.

Why would I need a 2nd tag? I haven't even filled a tag yet.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2015, 01:22:41 PM »
Which tag are you talking about, Modern Firearm, Archery or Muzzle Loader?

If you are asking if you can shoot two deer without having drawn the special permit: no.

It will help better answer your question if we know which method of hunting you choose or are choosing for your tag.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 01:23:00 PM »
The catch is you said "another".


You can only harvest, kill, one deer a year unless you apply for, and then get drawn a "2nd" tag which would be area and season specific.

You can't get two general use deer tags over the counter.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2015, 01:23:14 PM »
You can pop a deer in your yard as long as it meets legal requirements and you are in a legal area during an archery season for the area you are in.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2015, 01:24:22 PM »
If a deer is drinking out of your pond during archery deer season and you have a archery deer tag you can shoot the deer.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2015, 01:25:13 PM »
Don't forget the lessor weapon part of modern & muzzle loading, we really need to know which tag and season he is planning on hunting to give him a proper answer.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2015, 01:25:52 PM »
I'm new to WA, so please bare with my stupid question.

If I get a tag for a deer, and catch another buck drinking out of my pond, which I have caught several...

Can I shoot said buck with a bow?

(I was embarrassed to ask it, but couldn't find a cut and dry answer)

For sure I do not understand this question. :dunno:
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2015, 01:35:17 PM »
Or another twist, he could have a modern deer tag but his house could be in a firearms restricted area to which he could use a bow to kill said deer at his pond during the modern firearm season...

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2015, 01:53:13 PM »
If a deer is drinking out of your pond during archery deer season and you have a archery deer tag you can shoot the deer.

Thank you!

Sorry for the confusion folks.  When I said "another" I meant, I've caught several different bucks drinking from my pond.  I've yet to fill a tag on any of them, I wasn't sure if it was legal.  Thanks for all the help!
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 01:56:29 PM »
Which tag/season are you planning on hunting?
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2015, 01:57:54 PM »

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2015, 02:01:32 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01712/wdfw01712.pdf

This may help   :dunno:


Now why would you start using logic and common sense when it is so much more useful and efficient  to solicit random, confusing and often differing answers on the internet??

You Sir, are clearly a trouble maker and rabblerouser!!

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2015, 02:26:43 PM »
Well, there isn't any dumb questions except the ones that are not asked.

But there really is more information needed before an accurate answer can be given.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2015, 02:31:45 PM »
I appreciate those who actually tried to help.

I should have just asked if it was legal to shoot a deer on my property in an area with homes around.  That's all I was actually unclear on.

And thank you for posting the big game book for WA.  I could not get the link to launch on my computer from the state site, and that link did the trick.

To those with the rude comments, keep it up guys.  You're awesome.  :chuckle:
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2015, 02:37:13 PM »
I should have just asked if it was legal to shoot a deer on my property in an area with homes around.  That's all I was actually unclear on.

If can be done safely, during open season with correct tag and legal equipment, and no pesky Homeowners Asociation rules or local government restrictions that prohibt weapons discharges, short answer is yes...whack it to him.

Then post some pictures and then fire up the  :cue:


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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2015, 02:38:35 PM »
I appreciate those who actually tried to help.

I should have just asked if it was legal to shoot a deer on my property in an area with homes around.  That's all I was actually unclear on.

And thank you for posting the big game book for WA.  I could not get the link to launch on my computer from the state site, and that link did the trick.

To those with the rude comments, keep it up guys.  You're awesome.  :chuckle:
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2015, 02:40:47 PM »
  If the deer are around your place in Graham you need to make sure you are not in the county no shooting area.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2015, 02:48:25 PM »
If you are within most city limits you cannot hunt, regardless if it is your own property or not. 

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2015, 02:49:58 PM »
  If the deer are around your place in Graham you need to make sure you are not in the county no shooting area.

http://yakima.co.pierce.wa.us/MapGallery/index.cfm?event=displayMapInformation&id=449

According to that map, I am outside of the no shooting area.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2015, 02:50:32 PM »
If a deer is drinking out of your pond during archery deer season and you have a archery deer tag you can shoot the deer.

Thank you!

Sorry for the confusion folks.  When I said "another" I meant, I've caught several different bucks drinking from my pond.  I've yet to fill a tag on any of them, I wasn't sure if it was legal.  Thanks for all the help!

I was fooled by the original question as well so don't be too harsh on the guys adding a little levity... there is a lot of angst, especially among the bow hunting crowd, with all of the closures going on.  BTW, not sure I saw any responses that I would categorize as "rude".   :dunno:  Well, except maybe for Timberstalker....   :chuckle:

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2015, 02:51:04 PM »
Then I would suggest putting out a few apples just to get a hint of sweetness....bring them in.....wait for it....wait for it....thwack!

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2015, 03:05:45 PM »
Another thing to consider is if you shoot a deer on your property and it runs onto a neighbors property will permission to retrieve it be granted?

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2015, 03:08:12 PM »
Another thing to consider is if you shoot a deer on your property and it runs onto a neighbors property will permission to retrieve it be granted?

Excellent point.  I get along really great with my neighbors, so I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2015, 03:09:32 PM »
If it is legal to practice with a bow

I never even bothered to check into the legality of that.  I have enough distance between the houses around me, I figured it was okay to shoot a bow on my land.  Ugh.
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2015, 03:31:22 PM »
If it is legal to practice with a bow

I never even bothered to check into the legality of that.  I have enough distance between the houses around me, I figured it was okay to shoot a bow on my land.  Ugh.
If you are not within the "no shooting area" you are fine to shoot your bow and harvest a deer from your property.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2015, 03:56:31 PM »
Do your neighbors have pet names for the deer? Do the neighborhood children feed them and enjoy the how tame they are? You could shoot one of the bucks they raised from a fawn and when you shoot it with  an arrow and it goes on their lawn to die in front of the children you may have made mortal enemies for life. Nothing worse that bad blood in the neighborhood. Just need to talk to the neighbors beforehand , then SHOOT!!
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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2015, 12:12:39 AM »
I'm still not sure what tag you purchased.  If it was modern firearm, you're stuck waiting until 17 Oct (or whatever the opener is).  No stickin' 'em early, during archery  or muzzy season, unless you purchased an archery or muzzy tag instead of the modern firearm. 

I'm pretty sure you already knew that, but I hate to let an opportunity to further muddy the waters pass by without adding additional confusing comment.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2015, 07:21:56 AM »
Graham falls under unincorporated Pierce county bows are legal in all areas. As mentioned above they do have firearm restricted areas. The only place a bow cant be fired is in parks.

Your in GMU 652 has any deer Sept 1st - 30th and late season Nov 25th - Dec 31st also any deer so you'll be alright then. But once hunting season start deer's habits change so you might find that once the time comes they don't come around anymore.

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Re: This is a dumb question, I'm sure...
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2015, 04:35:34 PM »
Thanks for the great info on the recent replies!  :tup:
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