Coyote hunting without a call

[79TA7.6]

I have about 2000 acres that we farm and run cows on. We have been having coyote problems lately as a lot of the ground was put in CRP 9 years ago. We typically pick off the yotes as we see them, but I want to try to lure them in. I have ordered a few Cartridge Calls, 2 .223 and 1 .308. I was hoping to be able to try my luck at luring them in some other way while I wait for them to arrive as I have no work till Wednesday.

Has anyone here had luck at bringing in yotes without a call? What did you use/do? I can probably find some old meet in the fridge I could let thaw out. Would they come to that?

[BOWHUNTER45]

Well  ..maybe this fall I can come help you out with that problem ....otherwise you need a dead cow or something you can use for bait ...any large farm animal that has died will work well !

[79TA7.6]

About three years ago we had a dead cow that we dragged into the CRP. Used up a lot of 6mm that year. Think we counted a dozen or more yotes. The problem is that a dead calf is $1000 and the full grown cows are a lot more. Do not really care for that kind of bait. I think that was the last cow we have lost.

I have some meat I had sliced to make beef jerky that has been in the freezer for quite some time. Might pull that out just for the hell of it. Figure once it turns rancid it should smell good to a yote. If that don't work I guess I am just waiting till my new calls get here.

[2labs]

Might try a dog squeaky toy? I've stopped them with a rubber ball with a squeak in it

[bobcat]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

[CAMPMEAT]

Coyotes will eat anything. By chance, do you know Dawn Nelson, I do.

[huntingfool7]

Apples!

[jasnt]

You were born with a call. Your lips. You would be surprised how many yotes have been killed using lip squeaks alone. Or to pump up the volume us the back of your hand "kissing" it loudly.  Works great!

[Bofire]

what is a cartridge call?

[jasnt]

what is a cartridge call?

http://cartridgecalls.com/index.php/predators.html

[79TA7.6]

Did not even think about apple. Would any fruit work? Rotten fruit? I have tried making noise with my lips but did not think about kissing my hand. Should make a nice squeal.

My wife and mother in law are good friends with Dawn. She just lives down the road. We have baught some bulls from her and even sold her a calf whos momma died.

[CAMPMEAT]

Did not even think about apple. Would any fruit work? Rotten fruit? I have tried making noise with my lips but did not think about kissing my hand. Should make a nice squeal.

My wife and mother in law are good friends with Dawn. She just lives down the road. We have baught some bulls from her and even sold her a calf whos momma died.

I know Dawns Mom and Dad, before he passed away. That's how I met her. Been coyote hunting down there a few times during the snow and you need a snow machine to get around. We normally do drive-bys anyhow....

[Bofire]

they seem to be another closed reed call, should work as good as any do, open reed are much more versitile.
Carl

[southernsmoke]

I would love to come bang on the long gun out that way...especially at some yotes

[Bennick16]

If you want I can bring an e caller 

[nwwanderer]

Pretty tough right now with a bunch of blue tongue kills around.  Not out and about much, eat and sleep

[Bennick16]

Pretty tough right now with a bunch of blue tongue kills around.  Not out and about much, eat and sleep

Righttttt, hadn't even thought of that. I thought it was limited more so to the Spokane area though?

[jasnt]

Haven't seen any blue tongue in my areas. Running water helps a lot. Stagnet  water is where the nats that spread blue tongue dwell.

[McCRIZZLEY]

Now that this thread is fully off track, I've noticed quite a few between spokane and pullman. Coyotes seem to be fairly content and full. I don't do deer hunting, but I find myself wishing for some rain and frost.

[headshot5]

I have about 2000 acres that we farm and run cows on. We have been having coyote problems lately as a lot of the ground was put in CRP 9 years ago. We typically pick off the yotes as we see them, but I want to try to lure them in. I have ordered a few Cartridge Calls, 2 .223 and 1 .308. I was hoping to be able to try my luck at luring them in some other way while I wait for them to arrive as I have no work till Wednesday.

Has anyone here had luck at bringing in yotes without a call? What did you use/do? I can probably find some old meet in the fridge I could let thaw out. Would they come to that?

Read through this thread on predator masters.   

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1740716#Post1740716

[Big10gauge]

Coyotes will eat anything. By chance, do you know Dawn Nelson, I do.

So do I

[tgomez]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Some POS put poison on a deer carcass one year to kill coyotes. We took my moms obedience trained chocaolate lab(Tango)  out for a pheasent hunt, and he found the deer and started smelling, lcking on the carcass. I said, "Get away" when I realized what he was doing. An hour or so later our lab was acting wierd and eventually started to bear his teeth at my father and I and became EXTREMLY agressive. My father had to dispatch our family pet in the field that day. When we took Tango to the vet to get blood work done, the vet said, "you did him a favor, he was poisoned and would have attacked you two likely." Very sad day I will never forget. My father and I have not gone bird hunting ever since, and it took a large piece of happiness away from my father. He loved to train labs for bird hunting. So my recommendation is just go buy a call, and good luck to you. Coyotes arnt hard to call if your in the right area for them. However you choose to go, just be safe.

[reelmcoy]

i used to take one of those battery operated socks and put different types of scent on them and plug it in up wind from where i thought they were bedded ,it worked pretty good on the coyotes ,coyote urine ,and hickory smoked bacon grease ,worked for me

[Gringo31]

I can sell dead calves for $1000?   


PM me and we can do some business!!!  I'll even make you a special deal due to the holidays 

[bigbenbo]

I'll be honest it sounds like long-term it might be worth investing in an electronic coyote call. You should use any old smelly meat or carcass you can get your hands on.

The best thing is going to be investing in an electronic coyote call -- there are many that would suit your needs for under $100. Look at the ICOtec GC300, Primos Dog Catcher, or Ruger iHunt.

[Gringo31]

Just a FYI....

A cow that was treated with penicillin (for example) and dies will not make good bait.  They won't touch her.

[Bofire]

kissing your hand, thumb, works really good
Carl

[Jerry malbeck]

 

Just a FYI....

A cow that was treated with penicillin (for example) and dies will not make good bait.  They won't touch her.

 

[Jerry malbeck]

I have about 2000 acres that we farm and run cows on. We have been having coyote problems lately as a lot of the ground was put in CRP 9 years ago. We typically pick off the yotes as we see them, but I want to try to lure them in. I have ordered a few Cartridge Calls, 2 .223 and 1 .308. I was hoping to be able to try my luck at luring them in some other way while I wait for them to arrive as I have no work till Wednesday.

Has anyone here had luck at bringing in yotes without a call? What did you use/do? I can probably find some old meet in the fridge I could let thaw out. Would they come to that?

Dont even bother thawing it out they will come, If you really need help Ill be having some time off for the holidays,I get up that way now and then to a couple of ranches I call .One ranch has me calling a lot and its up your way,Get ahold of me and well see if we can work it out. jmalbeck@yahoo.com   

[Ridgeratt]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Is it legal to relocate road kill to an alternate site?

[jasnt]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Is it legal to relocate road kill to an alternate site?

it is legal to pick it up for disposal. I'd call that disposal lol

[Ridgeratt]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Is it legal to relocate road kill to an alternate site?

it is legal to pick it up for disposal. I'd call that disposal lol

Does that require something special? Sort of like an Exempt Plate? I guess I could use a lab coat with WSU in sharpie on the back

[jasnt]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Is it legal to relocate road kill to an alternate site?

it is legal to pick it up for disposal. I'd call that disposal lol

Does that require something special? Sort of like an Exempt Plate? I guess I could use a lab coat with WSU in sharpie on the back

lol it might require a pickup or SUV and a tarp. 

[Ridgeratt]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Is it legal to relocate road kill to an alternate site?

it is legal to pick it up for disposal. I'd call that disposal lol

Does that require something special? Sort of like an Exempt Plate? I guess I could use a lab coat with WSU in sharpie on the back

lol it might require a pickup or SUV and a tarp.

If it was WSU it would be a Pick-up and Some type of Camo window decal
If it was UW  it would be a Prius with a coexist bumper sticker.

[Blacktail Sniper]

Use deer and elk carcasses- they're free.

Is it legal to relocate road kill to an alternate site?

it is legal to pick it up for disposal. I'd call that disposal lol

Not exactly accurate.  Can be if it is found dead on or along side your property, then to be completely in compliance, WDFW must be also be notified.

If just along side the road in general, but not adjacent to your property, an individual can not take it legally, it is the county or state road departments responsibility to remove.

[79TA7.6]

All, sorry I have not responded. I have not figured out on this site how to set up email notifications.

Anyway, I have an older electric caller that a family friend gave me. I do not remember the brand, but it uses cassette tapes and a wired speaker. I have about 30 different cassettes it came with and have been using the hurting jack and kitten in distress calls. So far I have not had luck with it. I set the call up about 50 yards from me, then I hide next to some implements that are in the field. The first two times I tried I could not hear any coyotes. This morning I tried out by our corral where I could hear them yipping a few draws over. I am able to hide pretty good, but maybe not good enough. I let the call run for quite some time, but I never heard them yipping after this. It is almost like the call is running the dogs off. I flipped the tape over to get another good run of calling and walked down the fence line towards an alfalfa field, trying to walk around, not towards, the yipping I heard earlier. I did this just because I figured if they were still around the call should have brought them in. Of course I did not see anything, so I went back and gathered my caller and went home.

I am at a loss. I have the next two weeks to play with these dogs, so I would like to know what I am doing wrong. I am not really in a place to have others out on the property as it is my in-laws. We have had bad things in the past happen when allowing people out here, like theft and killing of our livestock.

Am I not letting the call run long enough, maybe volume is too low? I have it at about 3/4. Do I need to do a different call? I am using the hurting jack as it just snowed and I thought the sou d of a hurt animal would draw them in for an easy meal.

[Bennick16]

All, sorry I have not responded. I have not figured out on this site how to set up email notifications.

Anyway, I have an older electric caller that a family friend gave me. I do not remember the brand, but it uses cassette tapes and a wired speaker. I have about 30 different cassettes it came with and have been using the hurting jack and kitten in distress calls. So far I have not had luck with it. I set the call up about 50 yards from me, then I hide next to some implements that are in the field. The first two times I tried I could not hear any coyotes. This morning I tried out by our corral where I could hear them yipping a few draws over. I am able to hide pretty good, but maybe not good enough. I let the call run for quite some time, but I never heard them yipping after this. It is almost like the call is running the dogs off. I flipped the tape over to get another good run of calling and walked down the fence line towards an alfalfa field, trying to walk around, not towards, the yipping I heard earlier. I did this just because I figured if they were still around the call should have brought them in. Of course I did not see anything, so I went back and gathered my caller and went home.

I am at a loss. I have the next two weeks to play with these dogs, so I would like to know what I am doing wrong. I am not really in a place to have others out on the property as it is my in-laws. We have had bad things in the past happen when allowing people out here, like theft and killing of our livestock.

Am I not letting the call run long enough, maybe volume is too low? I have it at about 3/4. Do I need to do a different call? I am using the hurting jack as it just snowed and I thought the sou d of a hurt animal would draw them in for an easy meal.

I'm in the same boat as far as trying to figure out the ecaller. As far as the disrespect of other hunters I've actually heard this from quite a few people when asking for permission. Its sad that stupid people ruin it for the rest of us. Good luck with your coyote problem.

[jasnt]

IMO the sounds don't really matter much. Don't keep using the same sounds from the same spot. Setup is the most important part.

[Jerry malbeck]

Hard to say what your doing wrong if anything, If you cant allow another exp. caller to help you out your only other way to learn is to hire a guide and pay to learn, Or keep doing what your doing till you figure it out.

[79TA7.6]

I will eventually get to the point where I can bring people out again, but for the time being I guess I will have to keep trying to see what I am doing wrong. I do appreciate the help I am getting here though.