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Broad head question
« on: September 07, 2015, 12:13:36 PM »
I made my first kill with my bow yesterday after buying and shooting my bow in the backyard for the last couple of years.  Seeing as how mechanical broad heads were not legal until this year I had always practiced with fixed broad heads.  A few weeks before season I went ahead and switched some of my broad heads to the Rage 2 Blade SC.  Having never shot anything other than a foam target with a broad head my question is this:

Is it normal for a broad head to bend or become misshapen after going through an animal?


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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2015, 12:21:21 PM »
If it was a complete pass-thru, it could have possibly hit a rock....
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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2015, 12:32:46 PM »
All of mine always look like that, pass through or not.  Bone is hard stuff

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2015, 01:21:13 PM »
Yes that would be normal.  If we made blades strong enough not to bend on high speed impacts with bone they would shatter.  They would be insanely sharp!!! - But would be too fragile for bone strikes.  Looks like that Rage held up pretty good! 

On average expandable heads have blades heat treated to a softer degree.  Their nature lends them to more breakage.  So they heat treat closer to 50-54Rc rather than the 56-58Rc in fixed stainless blade heads.
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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2015, 06:33:56 PM »
Ok.  Thanks for the info.  Now I'm on the hunt for replacement blades.  Better to replace and reuse what I can. 

If you had to guesstimate, how many animals can be shot with a broad head before any non-damaged parts need to be replaced due to dullness?

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2015, 06:42:24 PM »
IMO, based not in any small amount on the recommendation of RadSav, new blades every animal, main body reusable as long as it's structurally sound.

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2015, 06:47:20 PM »
 MY opinion is once a mechanical goes through Ani Mal it's done. :twocents:

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2015, 06:51:21 PM »
MY opinion is once a mechanical goes through Ani Mal it's done. :twocents:

Point well taken.  I forgot we were talking mechanicals

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2015, 07:11:53 PM »
MY opinion is once a mechanical goes through Ani Mal it's done. :twocents:
:yeah: however the rage I used on the opener never hit a bone and stopped in a rotten stump. Still in like new. I turned the collar and touched up the blades for use on my second deer tag. I was expecting a mangled mess.

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2015, 09:56:19 PM »
The folding blades look good.  No shiny spots or flat surfaces.  The point is just jacked.  I think it might be from it hitting on something and pulling the arrow the rest of the way out.

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2015, 09:18:07 PM »
Last year I shot the same head through a coyote one week and a deer a week later, and it didn't look like that. The coyote got hit on the run clipping the back of his humerus before going through everything important and sticking in the ground on the far side. The deer got double lunged from 68 yds and it took me longer to find the arrow than the deer because there was nothing but the fletches sticking out of the ground. That put a couple tiny dings in the blade, but those disappeared when I touched it up on the stone. I was using 175gr Samurais then, I'm using Abowyer Brown Bears this year, we'll see what happens. I don't anticipate any problems. I was messing around with them and I sent it through a speed bag and it punched a hole through an egress window well, that snapped off the very tip, but it fared better than I expected.

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 12:05:23 AM »
It's a Rage what do you expect..... There not reliable My   :twocents:

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 08:11:24 AM »
It's a Rage what do you expect..... There not reliable My   :twocents:
Do you have experience to back your opinion?
My opinion is still just forming on them. I only have one first hand experience at this point. The head did as it was supposed to.
Even went through the mesh window on my blind without hiccup.
I'm not real impressed with the aluminum ferrules and how hey align in my arrows but the one shot I took did as expected.
Though I'm not sure it did anything better than a fixed head.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2015, 08:32:26 AM by BULLBLASTER »

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2015, 08:26:56 AM »
Broadheads are inexpensive enough that I'll retire them after a kill.  Most of the time the broadhead makes its decision by mangling itself up or by being bent/broken inside a running animal.

I shot a Montec through a turkey.  The arrow went into the tall, thick grass and slowed to a stop without ever burying into the ground.  Even that was enough to fold the Montec into a tin foil heap   :chuckle:  I thought it was a fluke but it happened again the next year.  I will never hunt anything bigger than a turkey with those  :o

It's a Rage what do you expect..... There not reliable My   :twocents:

I don't prefer them either but I don't think I'd call them "unreliable"...but hey, it's your  :twocents: to give  ;)
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Broad head question
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2015, 08:33:37 AM »
Broadheads are inexpensive enough that I'll retire them after a kill.  Most of the time the broadhead makes its decision by mangling itself up or by being bent/broken inside a running animal.

I shot a Montec through a turkey.  The arrow went into the tall, thick grass and slowed to a stop without ever burying into the ground.  Even that was enough to fold the Montec into a tin foil heap   :chuckle:  I thought it was a fluke but it happened again the next year.  I will never hunt anything bigger than a turkey with those  :o

It's a Rage what do you expect..... There not reliable My   :twocents:

I don't prefer them either but I don't think I'd call them "unreliable"...but hey, it's your  :twocents: to give  ;)
You have about the same experience with montec as I do. I shot a bobcat with one and it broke and bent to crap.  :chuckle:

 


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