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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #135 on: September 20, 2015, 10:13:02 PM »
What he did was wrong and it was for greed/fame.  He got the attention he wanted with these animals and now he's getting the attention he deserves for the offenses.  I think most feel deceived and that's where a lot of the emotion comes from.  To put it in reality, it sounds like he lied on his hunting application to save some money on non-resident fees and went on someone else's land without permission.  I'm certain at least half of you have done the latter.  Nobody was hurt, raped, or harmed.  It's simple once you get past your emotions.


Read thelast 2 sentences At half the hunters on hunt WA have done the same.



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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #136 on: September 20, 2015, 10:17:16 PM »
What he did was wrong and it was for greed/fame.  He got the attention he wanted with these animals and now he's getting the attention he deserves for the offenses.  I think most feel deceived and that's where a lot of the emotion comes from.  To put it in reality, it sounds like he lied on his hunting application to save some money on non-resident fees and went on someone else's land without permission.  I'm certain at least half of you have done the latter.  Nobody was hurt, raped, or harmed.  It's simple once you get past your emotions.


Read thelast 2 sentences At half the hunters on hunt WA have done the same.



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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #137 on: September 20, 2015, 10:17:36 PM »
" I bet EVERYONE has done something  that cpuld be called out too"

Every hunter on here does not have a hunting show viewed by the public.

I gues justification is is, based on these two posts, is all hunters are unethical, so it is ok that alwine knowingly broke the Montana fish and game laws and poached

IT is a big deal to falsely claim residency in Montana and claim tags that non residents, LIKE US, cannot access. But again am sure it it was a simple honest mistake committed by Alwine year after year to make money. We ALL do it here on Hunt WA :dunno:


So because Matt poaches and lies and commits fraud on hunting applications multiple time times all hunters MUST do the same? HE LIED on his MT residency  DUDE !


I hunt by the crazy mountains in Montana and have had monster bucks just over the fence line on property I cannot hunt. I of course passed.  I do not have a hunting show and did not poach and trespass and lie on hunting applications.

You can keep worshipping a poacher I choose not too in fact I never worshipped or looked up to his type of antler *censored*.


Just clarification, not defending by any means. He got caught for trespassing, but still hunted in season with the proper tags? I only got through one article so far.

Sounds like an innocent misunderstanding then

You can still continue to purchase his poaching videos :tup:
Nice try. I don't defend him and I will not promote him. Take your pompous response somewhere else. I'll bet at least 60% of the hunt wa community has done something in their hunting career that was questionable or unethical. I hope they stick it to him just as they would anyone else. To sit back on your keyboard and act as if you're Gods gift to the world on this, it's sad, but not the end of the world. Let's keep perspective people. Look at that Cambodian guy that was trafficking wild meat last year. I didn't see this same outcry from our community on that one. It's only because he had a name that any of you are even jumping on this. Disappointing, yes. End of the world, not a chance. Home dude will  be burned for so long id be surprised to see his face again.
Pretty sure I've never mentioned 'worshipping' or promoting the dude as you claim. What i am saying is I bet most guys have committed a crime whether(?) they knew it or not. Pretty sure home dude knew he was skirting the rules and deserves the following punishment. I'm glad mt dealt with it the way they did. Id like to
See wa be as determined to deter people from commiting wildlife crimes as mt appears to be. And I never claimed everyone does the same. But I bet everyone has done something that could be called out too. I think the only reaso. For the the out cry is that he was a visible spokesman for the idea(hunting) that we all Support and enjoy doing.

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #138 on: September 21, 2015, 04:09:37 AM »
I don't think you're even reading what I have written or processing it, but whatever. I guess I haven't hit the coveted 2500 posts mark to be taken as a serious hunter or sportsman according to this sight and its high tier members. Dude knew he was wrong and is being punished accordingly. He is/was a member here and I think maybe that's why it stings a little more. Fortunately mt takes their game laws more seriously than wa does and is issuing punishment that fits the crime. You gotta calm down and quit picking parts and pieces of what people have written to misuse for your agenda. Whatever that is

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2015, 04:40:59 AM »
Greed for animals, money, and fame got the better of him.

What a terrible example of hunters he is, when he could have been a role model.
this nails it for me..

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2015, 04:53:48 AM »
Me too :yeah:

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #141 on: September 21, 2015, 06:01:43 AM »
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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #142 on: September 21, 2015, 06:19:16 AM »
Me four

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #143 on: September 21, 2015, 06:53:12 AM »
agree :yeah:

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #144 on: September 21, 2015, 07:10:26 AM »
What he did was wrong and it was for greed/fame.  He got the attention he wanted with these animals and now he's getting the attention he deserves for the offenses.  I think most feel deceived and that's where a lot of the emotion comes from.  To put it in reality, it sounds like he lied on his hunting application to save some money on non-resident fees and went on someone else's land without permission.  I'm certain at least half of you have done the latter.  Nobody was hurt, raped, or harmed.  It's simple once you get past your emotions.

I would be extremely surprised if the number were anywhere close to half. I know no one who's lied to pay resident prices out of state. I know few who trespass. If someone i hunt with does, I don't hunt with them any longer. As far as a definition of poaching is concerned, he defines it with his actions:

poach1
[pohch]
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verb (used without object)
1.
to trespass, especially on another's game preserve, in order to steal animals or to hunt.
2.
to take game or fish illegally.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poach
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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #145 on: September 21, 2015, 10:37:11 AM »
Of the guys trying to make a living by killing trophy class big game in USA, the 98% that are lawbreakers give all the rest of them a bad name.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #146 on: September 21, 2015, 10:45:58 AM »
 :chuckle:
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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #147 on: September 21, 2015, 10:56:02 AM »
It’s difficult if not impossible to know what percentage of the hunting population poaches. I have read that many non-hunters believe it is a majority of hunters that do. As is true in these instances, the public only sees the bad incidents like Matthew Alwine’s illegal activities.

This is from May, but it’s another interesting hit on Washington hunters. If you’re going to be stupid enough to break game laws, don’t do it in Montana or Alaska. They don’t mess around.

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/05/15/washington-men-stripped-montana-hunting-privileges/27408733/


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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #148 on: September 21, 2015, 11:40:28 AM »
It’s difficult if not impossible to know what percentage of the hunting population poaches. I have read that many non-hunters believe it is a majority of hunters that do. As is true in these instances, the public only sees the bad incidents like Matthew Alwine’s illegal activities.

This is from May, but it’s another interesting hit on Washington hunters. If you’re going to be stupid enough to break game laws, don’t please do it in Montana or Alaska. They don’t mess around.

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/05/15/washington-men-stripped-montana-hunting-privileges/27408733/

Fixed it for you.
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Re: Trophy State of Mind poaching in Montana
« Reply #149 on: September 21, 2015, 11:41:46 AM »
It’s difficult if not impossible to know what percentage of the hunting population poaches. I have read that many non-hunters believe it is a majority of hunters that do. As is true in these instances, the public only sees the bad incidents like Matthew Alwine’s illegal activities.

This is from May, but it’s another interesting hit on Washington hunters. If you’re going to be stupid enough to break game laws, don’t please do it in Montana or Alaska. They don’t mess around.

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/05/15/washington-men-stripped-montana-hunting-privileges/27408733/

Fixed it for you.
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Thanks. ;)

I'll also add that if you wish to poach in Washington, please contact me. I pay cash to observe.
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