Wolves in the 49 unit

[PA BEN]

A friend of mine was elk hunting south west of the ski hill, he ran into another hunter who called in a pack of wolves while bugling. The other hunter showed him pictures of the wolves. He said at least one had a collar on. The guy also saw a sow grizzly with a cub. BTW, all the elk sign was old.

[BullMagnet76]

Was that by Woodard Meadows?

[PA BEN]

North of there

[zwickeyman]

Saw 4 on Lucky Peak 8 years ago. They hammer the Muledeer in the winter as well. Bummer

[PA BEN]

I've got more of the story. The guy was sitting in a tree stand and was bugling for elk. 3 wolves came running in, all 3 had collars with cameras on the collars. My buddy heard about some guys getting busted in Montana after shooting a wolf and walking up to the kill and getting caught on camera.

[snake]

I don't believe it. But thats my opinion.

[JimmyHoffa]

I remember reading about the UW bios that were putting the camera collars on deer, wolves and cougars.  That way they could record how they interact with each other.  I thought all the animals being collared were on the coville indian reservation though.

[huntnphool]

 I can't get a camera battery to last for a full day, what kind of battery are they using that runs a video camera longer than a few hours?

[JimmyHoffa]

I don't know phool.  Might contact UW?
Here's one article:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/30/collar-camera-records-deer-predation-by-cougar/
I thought that elsewhere I read that the cameras come on early morning and late afternoon and only record a few hours a day (when interactions are most likely).

[Timberstalker]

Seems a little tin foil hatish. With that said, I wouldn't put it past the WDFW.

[GameHunter1959]

I can't get a camera battery to last for a full day, what kind of battery are they using that runs a video camera longer than a few hours?

Speculating but now days the new LED technology built in cameras does not require much battery. The cameras are setup to turn on/off by "direct motion". The cameras will record clips not consistent video recording. Again; speculating, but that is consistent with many of the new LED imaging technologies on the market. I happen to sell it for a living...

[PA BEN]

I don't believe it. But thats my opinion.

What part don't you believe?

[AspenBud]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

[wolfbait]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

I think it's pretty obvious by now as to what wolves eat, as far as using cameras to identify if wolves killed the cow etc., WDFW won't confirm known wolf packs or confirm livestock killed by wolves unless they have no other choice. Putting cameras on the few wolves that they have confirmed since 2002 won't even come close to the amount of wolves that WA now has. I would be more incline to believe the cameras are meant to protect the wolves or to catch someone who may have shot one

 
 

[buglebrush]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

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   NOT a good thing!

[AspenBud]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

I think it's pretty obvious by now as to what wolves eat, as far as using cameras to identify if wolves killed the cow etc., WDFW won't confirm known wolf packs or confirm livestock killed by wolves unless they have no other choice. Putting cameras on the few wolves that they have confirmed since 2002 won't even come close to the amount of wolves that WA now has. I would be more incline to believe the cameras are meant to protect the wolves or to catch someone who may have shot one

You're missing the point. Video becomes public record if the state places cameras on them. With video it becomes hard to deny evidence of cattle killed or to argue what they eat overall. The problem is it's almost laughable to think about trying to stick a camera on all of them. Not happening.

[AspenBud]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

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   NOT a good thing!

Maybe for a poacher. Otherwise it doesn't really matter.

[jasnt]

I have seen a video from a cougars collar when it attacked a deer. Think it was on here some where.

[buglebrush]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

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   NOT a good thing!

Maybe for a poacher. Otherwise it doesn't really matter.

Wrong.  I have never and would never poach an animal.  However if I was threatened by a pack of wolves I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them.  Much better to SSS than to deal with the politically charged fallout from shooting an " endangered" wolf.  Let me guess that you don't live in the NE corner?  Ya I thought as much. 

[CAMPMEAT]

I think, SSS would be worse than shooting an attacking wolf pack. Conservation Northwest would make your life miserable, along with the WDFW. They'd make an example out of you, for sure. You bet your rearend that both groups know exactly where all the wolf packs are. I have a Stevens County Sheriff Detective friend, who worked on the Wedge Pack for identifying if the cattle slaughtering was a wolf kill or cougar kill. He said something to me, DON'T SHOOT ANY WOLF, period. The greenies are hiding behind every tree, just waiting for a hunter to kill one..

[buglebrush]

I think, SSS would be worse than shooting an attacking wolf pack. Conservation Northwest would make your life miserable, along with the WDFW. They'd make an example out of you, for sure. You bet your rearend that both groups know exactly where all the wolf packs are. I have a Stevens County Sheriff Detective friend, who worked on the Wedge Pack for identifying if the cattle slaughtering was a wolf kill or cougar kill. He said something to me, DON'T SHOOT ANY WOLF, period. The greenies are hiding behind every tree, just waiting for a hunter to kill one..

Thanks for making my point.  As I stated I would not unless in a self defense situation.  In that case SSS and they would never find out. 

[AspenBud]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

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   NOT a good thing!

Maybe for a poacher. Otherwise it doesn't really matter.

Wrong.  I have never and would never poach an animal.  However if I was threatened by a pack of wolves I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them.  Much better to SSS than to deal with the politically charged fallout from shooting an " endangered" wolf.  Let me guess that you don't live in the NE corner?  Ya I thought as much.

How am I wrong? You shoot the wolf or wolves in self defense and you have video proof to prove you were in the right with a camera strapped to them. The camera is only something to fear if you're doing something illegal. Just how I see it.

But again, it's not a feasible idea, not every wolf can be trapped and have one put on. It's neither cost effective or realistic.

[buglebrush]

Cameras could actually be a good thing. No better way to document evidence of what they eat, or don't eat, than that. With enough of them on they could also help out on livestock  incidents or incidents where someone feels the need to shoot one in self defense.

How realistic putting on the equivalent of lapel cameras on wolves is, I don't know. But it could be useful.

.

   NOT a good thing!

Maybe for a poacher. Otherwise it doesn't really matter.

Wrong.  I have never and would never poach an animal.  However if I was threatened by a pack of wolves I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them.  Much better to SSS than to deal with the politically charged fallout from shooting an " endangered" wolf.  Let me guess that you don't live in the NE corner?  Ya I thought as much.

How am I wrong? You shoot the wolf or wolves in self defense and you have video proof to prove you were in the right with a camera strapped to them. The camera is only something to fear if you're doing something illegal. Just how I see it.

But again, it's not a feasible idea, not every wolf can be trapped and have one put on. It's neither cost effective or realistic.

Haven't  you noticed how when people kill a wolf it turns into an enormous fiasco?  Hatemail, death threats, etc...   No Thanks!  SSS for me! 

[jasnt]

I think, SSS would be worse than shooting an attacking wolf pack. Conservation Northwest would make your life miserable, along with the WDFW. They'd make an example out of you, for sure. You bet your rearend that both groups know exactly where all the wolf packs are. I have a Stevens County Sheriff Detective friend, who worked on the Wedge Pack for identifying if the cattle slaughtering was a wolf kill or cougar kill. He said something to me, DON'T SHOOT ANY WOLF, period. The greenies are hiding behind every tree, just waiting for a hunter to kill one..

though good advise this prob isn't true. They have yet to catch any wolf poachers that haven't turned them selves in

[CAMPMEAT]

I think, SSS would be worse than shooting an attacking wolf pack. Conservation Northwest would make your life miserable, along with the WDFW. They'd make an example out of you, for sure. You bet your rearend that both groups know exactly where all the wolf packs are. I have a Stevens County Sheriff Detective friend, who worked on the Wedge Pack for identifying if the cattle slaughtering was a wolf kill or cougar kill. He said something to me, DON'T SHOOT ANY WOLF, period. The greenies are hiding behind every tree, just waiting for a hunter to kill one..

though good advise this prob isn't true. They have yet to catch any wolf poachers that haven't turned them selves in

The ( poached ) dead wolves from Washington are killed right over the stateline near Nordman.....

[jasnt]

[jasnt]

I was talking about the collville wolves. Ones with the huge reward.  And no one spoke a peep

[highside74]

I had the parker lake archery moose tag. The other hunter that had that tag said that he ran into a lot of wolf sign late in his hunt and all moose activity came to a complete stop. He also ran into elk hunters that told him the same about the surrounding area.