I now know pale face brothers (karl) definition of fairly decent means double it and that's the reality and especially when you're part goat part pack mule of course any trail would be "fairly decent".
as I searched and searched I came up with nothing else. I came back again a couple days later and after reaching the top and circling the top area I spoke with a local who thought it was funny that I went through all that and there's a much closer trail that's not as steep south of where I was at.
After seeing some goats on the southern edge I decided to head back as I wasn't prepared to spike out since if I did venture the spine I'd double the mileage back.
I went back to the 1st area and hunt seen nothing all morning until I decided to just look around the rim of the whole valley. I seen close to 8 billies eating on the tower that Spider-Man himself would probably stop...I could close the distance on this tower but my only hope is if it fell because him dying up there would've meant calling in a helo.
